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Christian rapper Jackie Hill-Perry comes out as ex-gay firebrand

cpwill said:
:shrug: I can't find it. You say it exists. Point to it.
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Proof positive you still ignore it. Why should I bother with this?

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CLAX1911 said:
Proof positive you still ignore it.
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:shrug: I don't want to ignore it - I would like to answer it. That you refuse to cite it makes me suspect that in fact you are lying, and it doesn't exist.

Why should I bother with this?
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:shrug: generally, that's part of the purpose of this forum. Specifically, you made a claim, you should back it up.

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cpwill said:
:shrug: I don't want to ignore it - I would like to answer it.
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Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

That you refuse to cite it makes me suspect that in fact you are lying, and it doesn't exist.
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And that is the position you took from the beginning, rendering all discussion on such matters with you an exercise in futility.




:shrug: generally, that's part of the purpose of this forum. Specifically, you made a claim, you should back it up.
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I did you ignored it. Choosing belligerence over discussion. Your choice not mine.

Call me all the names you want. I simply see now value you can offer in discussion. Just another opinion. And quite a common one I am afraid.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.
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yes. Right. I would. Which is why I have repeatedly asked you to cite it.

And that is the position you took from the beginning, rendering all discussion on such matters with you an exercise in futility.
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Actually I have avoided that - and I hope it's not true. Proving so is as easy as citing the argument you made that I ignored. I have cited the argument I made that you ignored, and simply as you to do the same, if you wish to make that accusation against me.

I did you ignored it.
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WHERE. LINK IT.

Call me all the names you want
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What, you mean like "talibornagain"? You're the only one name-calling and denigrating in this debate thus far.
 
cpwill said:
yes. Right. I would. Which is why I have repeatedly asked you to cite it.
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I did you ignored than and lied about. All you have to do its go back and look.



Actually I have avoided that - and I hope it's not true.
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Actually You did exactly that. Sorry but it's true.

Proving so is as easy as citing the argument you made that I ignored.
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It is written down all you have to do is goback to the first time it was posted and read it.

I have cited the argument I made that you ignored,
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I didn't ignore it, it just wasn't correct.

and simply as you to do the same, if you wish to make that accusation against me.
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I already did.



WHERE. LINK IT.
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Why? Just go back and read.



What, you mean like "talibornagain"? You're the only one name-calling and denigrating in this debate thus far.
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If there is no chance for discussion because my opponent is to belligerent and lazy to acknowledge my argument he should be denigrated. Behavior such as yours it's not only pointless it's despicable.
 
Koros said:
So if your Christian rapper proves that being gay is a choice, what about those of us who tried to change, but couldn't? I spent years desperately trying to be straight. I wanted to be attracted to women. I wanted to have the white wedding, 2.5 kids, picket fence, minivan, and the typical suburban life. Hell, I was suicidal over my attraction to men.

But, no matter what I tried (and, yes, that included religion and prayer amongst it all), I never could get rid of my feelings for men or establish those feelings for women.

So, if she proves that being gay is a choice, then I prove it isn't.
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Then you are just like people with other addictions that can not overcome the addictions
 
CriticalThought said:
I am currently a substance abuse counselor and I find your attempt to equate homosexuality and addiction to be ridiculous and ignorant. Addiction is harmful and homosexuality is not. The very organizations that endorsed ex gay therapy, such as Exodus International, have apologized and reported they were mistaken that gay folks could be therapeutically treated out of being gay. You have absolutely no scientific basis to support your opinion.

Group apologizes to gay community, then shuts down 'cure' ministry - CNN.com
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Your biased and lies are well seen
 
ptif219 said:
Then you are just like people with other addictions that can not overcome the addictions
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And that professional diagnosis comes from advanced degrees in psychology and years of professional practice, right?
 
ptif219 said:
In your opinion
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No, this is a fact. You cannot prove that any single set of morals or even a single moral belief is absolutely right in any way that is measurable, therefore, it is nothing but subjective belief. And the fact that morality changes over time is pretty evident from history, since different cultures and even different times for a single culture have seen many different beliefs about what is right or wrong, and a lot of change.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Could someone be gay because they are hardwired? could others be because they chose to be?
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No. You cannot choose your attractions. Those are something that is part of you, how you are. The most you could say is that someone could easily choose to ignore their attractions and base who they choose to be with on something other than attraction.
 
ptif219 said:
Then you are just like people with other addictions that can not overcome the addictions
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what reason is their to over come homosexuality?
 
ptif219 said:
The people with moral standards. That leaves Democrats and liberals out
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you don't like those people because of their morality
 
ptif219 said:
Marriage and other things the liberals want to change. Like killing babies through abortion
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you can have what ever morals you want involving marriage and abortion what are you on about?
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Could someone be gay because they are hardwired? could others be because they chose to be?
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You'd hear a lot more claims along those lines then is my guess. What i see instead is people with a history of relations with opposite sex might get involved with same sex. They're probably just bisexual to some degree
 
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