
That's... conditioning, isn't it? A practiced response until it becomes second nature, in this case due to perceived social pressure.
Or, as is displayed by your second line, a lack of experience or opportunity with vocalizing.
The third option of course being that they're just quiet.



.I particularly dislike that advice.
What you need to remember, Thunder, is that it is hands that are the great lovers. You and your penis will generally be done much, much sooner than she is. Sexual success is easy for a man. With the woman its a treasure hunt and may be just as much a mystery to her as to you, maybe more.
I very much want feedback as a joint exploration and may well ask if it not offered. "What about here? No? Here?" actively seeking her guidance for the occassion and inviting her participation in the hunt... .... "yes, but a little to the left, yes...yes...YES yes! RIGHT THERE!!"
(Then she wants you to shut up because she's busy. She's only got a quarter hour or so to go, maybe a bit longer.)
BUT! Some women REALLY don't (as in never) want to go that far. And a few want to go further. Further gets crazy into the love-hate thing.
Last edited by joko104; 05-06-12 at 04:24 PM.

Some very interesting theories on why some women scream and some are silent.
One thing the military taught me and a few lovers along the way have reinforced is most humans are easily trained. Most folks really would like some guidance. I have found most women who care are willing to try new things, being more vocal is one way most have improved on. You have to lead as well as explain what noises you like. I have had some good success with going to missionary after a good warmup, while close to her ear I can whisper soft but pointed comments. Most quiet girls are inhibited about sounding 'coarse' they were raised to be good girls while most men want the good girl to stop at the bedroom door and the nasty/naughty girl enter.
Soft little phrases to start and as her body responds I ask her to tell me what she is, it is surprising the level of response that comes back. Move into doggy and if she doesn't answer a firm but not powerful swat helps the domination roleplay. (swats also bring more blood to the nerve endings greatly increasing sensitivity in doggy style sex.)
Strong but not painful holds help induce vocal responses. It is as if she now has permission to be bad, you are 'forcing' her to be bad. I like pulling a woman's hair from behind so she lifts up and I can hold her close to me and whisper in her ear.
Sometimes sensory deprivation helps, blindfold her so her mind can be used 'against' her inhibitions. Music with a heavy, tribal beat helps unlock her inner desire. I have used Koto drum CDs as well as blended african drums. Deep rhythmic beat.
Women are not a 3 piece jug band. Think 66 piece orchestra and you are the conductor. you control when the woodwinds pick up, pass off the the strings, low slow build to the percussion while the brass section accents the flow. Now as the drums build you lean forward as say, Tell me what you are...
If all that fails, tie her down and use a vibrator on her til she calls you everything but white boy...![]()



There is much I agree with in there and also often use the orchestra analogy. I'm not into doing bondage BUT unless the guy is very strong with good wrestling/fighting prowlness I can see where that might be necessary to obtain that goal if that is a goal. There are many reasons I wouldn't do bondage or blindfolding, but then I can enjoy "fight" out of her and I can certainly handle it if she does. A lot of guys couldn't so then artificial control might be necessary. The other reason is there is no chance in hell I would agree to bondage myself. Your point about pressure is very accurate - although that is a somewhat complex line between pressure, seeming an assault and causing real pain (so know what you're doing or don't try) and for some women about hair too.
Again, all women are not generic so some of this stuff would be extremely unwelcomed and intensely so. How long a couple has been together comes into play too as does the experiences - good and bad and otherwise - of both.
Last edited by joko104; 05-06-12 at 05:54 PM.
Ive been thinking about this a little more, and the fact is that she does give a few subtle indications of pleasure.
the opening of her mouth, her little "MMmmmmmmsss"s, when she tells me to stop, when she pulls my hand away cause she's cumming, etc etc. I guess I just have to be more intune with her body & her reactions, and not base my sense of achievement on how other women have reacted or how I want her to react.
lovemaking is a new experience & study with every woman.


How many guys do you think truly believe they're hot-**** in bed because they woman squeals and squiggles like a porn star - if only they knew the truth?