Thread: Gays Indoctrinating Children

Originally Posted by MistressNomad

I suppose we should also allow parents to teach their kids to hate black people, and that women are less intelligent than men?

Actually we do allow that. To my knowlege, most child-protection departments will not pull children from a home only because their parents are teaching them bigotry.



I taught my son that homosexual activity is a sin in our religious beliefs. I also taught him that we should never hate anyone, or persecute anyone, for any reason whatsoever. I have worked hard to teach him not to hate his personal enemies, even, because that is part of our religion as well. (It's a part I struggle with myself, but... ideals are ideals.) Am I a bigot?

Originally Posted by Goshin

I taught my son that homosexual activity is a sin in our religious beliefs. I also taught him that we should never hate anyone, or persecute anyone, for any reason whatsoever. I have worked hard to teach him not to hate his personal enemies, even, because that is part of our religion as well. (It's a part I struggle with myself, but... ideals are ideals.) Am I a bigot?

I think Christianity is bad but I don't hate Christians. Am I a bigot?

Originally Posted by CriticalThought

I think Christianity is bad but I don't hate Christians. Am I a bigot?

No, I wouldn't call you a bigot for that.

Originally Posted by Goshin

No, I wouldn't call you a bigot for that.

Then you are not a bigot. Unless of course they somehow prove that homosexuality is not choice and you continue to judge gay people for their sexual behavior.

Originally Posted by Gina

Most of my kids' generation don't give a damn if someone is gay.

This is very true, and somewhat frustrating, because when I hang out with my friends, and people my age in general, no one cares if someone is gay, and almost everyone is for SSM. And then to interact with older people, and not have these views be basically universal, and that is the reason why equality for LGBT people hasn't attained yet, it's just frustrating.

Originally Posted by CriticalThought

Then you are not a bigot. Unless of course they somehow prove that homosexuality is not choice and you continue to judge gay people for their sexual behavior.

"Judging people".... intresting, and volatile, choice of words.

When the subject comes up, I assert that my religious beliefs proclaim homosexual activity to be a sin. I don't go running around getting in everyone's face with it, in the normal course of events.

My best friend at work is a lesbian. When she first started work at my office, she was socially isolated and also had a hard time learning the ropes. I made a point of being friendly and giving her someone to talk to, and of mentoring her on the job and trying to say encouraging things to her.

She's never asked me how I feel about her being a lesbian. If she did, I'd answer honestly and tell her that even though I think it is a sin, that doesn't mean I don't like her personally and wish her well.

I am religiously obligated to view her lifestyle with disapproval... that doesn't mean I have to be a jackass about it.


So, tell me some more about how judgemental I am?

Originally Posted by CriticalThought

What exactly is the difference?

Indoctrination is the process of inculcating ideas, attitudes, cognitive strategies or a professional methodology (see doctrine). It is often distinguished from education by the fact that the indoctrinated person is expected not to question or critically examine the doctrine they have learned. As such it is used pejoratively, often in the context of political opinions, theology or religious dogma. Instruction in the basic principles of science, in particular, can not properly be called indoctrination, in the sense that the fundamental principles of science call for critical self-evaluation and skeptical scrutiny of one's own ideas, a stance outside any doctrine. In practice, however, a certain level of non-rational indoctrination, usually seen as miseducative, is invariably present. The term is closely linked to socialization; in common discourse, indoctrination is often associated with negative connotations, while socialization refers to cultural or educational learning.

Per Wiki.

Indoctrination - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by Goshin

So, tell me some more about how judgemental I am?

I have a pretty strong feeling that when all is said and done HERE, we're gonna get THERE and find out that this issue so many made their Final Stand didn't even register as a blip.

Originally Posted by BDBoop

I have a pretty strong feeling that when all is said and done HERE, we're gonna get THERE and find out that this issue so many made their Final Stand didn't even register as a blip.

Could be, I suppose. It's actually not one of my big issues, personally. I just get annoyed when people peg me for a bigot, just because I have a religious obligation to be true to what I believe.

Let's see...

Parents foot the bill for thier kids education via taxes.

Parent's values must not be taught at school...that's religion and morality has no place in the class room.

However, anything that may contradicts the parent's values (the state's morality) will be taught to thier children and paid for by the parent's tax dollars even if the parents object.

Yes...I can see why some people call public education child abuse.