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Microzoft has kidnapped my PC.

QuadpolarNutjob said:
no thanks on 10, but i appreciate the rest of you early adopters doing a free beta test for me, i'll download it once you're done.
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I don't think you fully understand Win10 or MS's approach to their OS. The "beta testing" is being done on a continuous basis by those who enter into the "insider" program. Those who don't just get those updates and upgrades that have been released for general use. Gone are the days of installing Windows...using it for some period of time...getting a couple of major updates...and then needing to buy and installing the next Windows that's being released.

Win10 is all there is and all there ever will be. MS has...and will continue...to update it regularly and will give free upgrades as they are developed.

So...if you think you might install it at some time, you'd best do it now while it's still free. Then you'll be set. Otherwise, at some point you'll be using an obsolete OS that won't get any updates.
 
eohrnberger said:
Interesting that they'd dump support of the later OS and maintain it on the earlier OS. Hmm. Usually doesn't work that way. Guess an indicate of how crappy 8 & 8.1 were.
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I don't think that's the case...that 8 and 8.1 were crappy.

My thinking is that those who had 8(.x) were already used to the new direction...upgraded to Win10 very quickly...have moved on. Those who, for whatever reason, are stuck on Win7 are still a sizable group so MS sees the need to accommodate them...especially business users...and that's why Win7 is being supported further.
 
Mycroft said:
Actually, Win10 doesn't track every keystroke I make...at least not since I've adjusted my privacy settings. That was something I did within the first week I after I installed the OS.

I use AdBlock+ in my browsers, but that has nothing to do with what shows up in the Start Menu.
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How do you know?
 
WCH said:
I came home today to Windows X being installed on my desktop without permission.

Cyberkidnapping
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I know they kept giving me pop-ups, warning me that after a certain point I wouldn't have a choice. So I figured at some point they'd just install whether or not people wanted it.
 
Mycroft said:
I'm not sure where you get that stuff about Win8 not being supported.

This article says something different.

How to stay on Windows 7 & 8 forever - How-To - PC Advisor
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Just disable the windows update service. Every time I do a an install of windows I do this. I install it. I have it on. I go individually get the updates I want and then I disable it. if something needs to be updated at some point I turn it back on scan for what updates are available and pick what is needed. update that only and then turn it back off again.

its easy to do. hit windows key and R. type services.msc . scroll down to Windows Update Service and right click on it and disable it.

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SocialD said:
Just disable the windows update service. Every time I do a an install of windows I do this. I install it. I have it on. I go individually get the updates I want and then I disable it. if something needs to be updated at some point I turn it back on scan for what updates are available and pick what is needed. update that only and then turn it back off again.

its easy to do. hit windows key and R. type services.msc . scroll down to Windows Update Service and right click on it and disable it.
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Why on earth are you telling me all this? I use Win10. I update it regularly. I upgrade it whenever MS comes out with one. I have no need to mess with the Windows Update Service.

And I didn't say a thing about upgrades...I was talking about whether Win8(.x) is being supported by MS or not.
 
WCH said:
whether it's logging your key strokes.
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How to turn off Windows 10's keylogger (yes, it still has one) | PCWorld

btw, this whole business of a "keylogger" is old news that nobody cares about anymore. It started with the Technical Preview. Someone got excited about the keylogger that was built into it...that, considering the TP was in reality a beta program, shouldn't have surprised anybody. But people got all concerned. The release version of Win10 didn't have that keylogger, though it did collect info. So...of course, people got all excited about THAT. What they didn't bother to find out about is that they could turn off the stuff that was collecting info. That's what I did right off the bat.

So, yeah...I know it's not logging my keystrokes.
 
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Mycroft said:
Why on earth are you telling me all this? I use Win10. I update it regularly. I upgrade it whenever MS comes out with one. I have no need to mess with the Windows Update Service.

And I didn't say a thing about upgrades...I was talking about whether Win8(.x) is being supported by MS or not.
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you posted a link to an article that instructs people to download a third party app that will keep you on windows 7 or 8 and not update to 10 so I replied saying that that was unnecessary all you have to do is turn off the update service.
 
SocialD said:
you posted a link to an article that instructs people to download a third party app that will keep you on windows 7 or 8 and not update to 10 so I replied saying that that was unnecessary all you have to do is turn off the update service.
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sigh...

Context is important...use it.

I ask that other member about his contention that Win8(.x) isn't supported any longer and presented a link that...if you had scrolled to the end of the article, you would have seen...gave information of how long each version of Windows is being supported. There was nothing in my post...no point I was trying to make...that had anything to do with how to deal with updates.

The old, "Look!! There's a squirrel!" perception will lead you down the wrong path every time.
 
WCH said:
Did you read the comments on that page? MS cannot be trusted.

Any company that can and will force you into using a product you don't want is capable of anything.
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LOL!!

Okay.

Hey...are you in the market for a tin foil hat, by any chance?


Seriously, though...I stopped reading "comments" a long time ago from people who "don't trust MS". shrug... No skin off my nose if they don't, but I don't take them seriously.

On a side note, how in the world does MS "force you into using a product you don't want"? As far as I know only the Democrats do that kind of thing. Hell, they aren't forcing you to put their product on your computer. They aren't forcing you to even turn on your computer. They aren't forcing you to do anything you don't want.
 
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Mycroft said:
LOL!!

Okay.

Hey...are you in the market for a tin foil hat, by any chance?


Seriously, though...I stopped reading "comments" a long time ago from people who "don't trust MS". shrug... No skin off my nose if they don't, but I don't take them seriously.
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It's not a problem useless it becomes one. MS/NSA?
 
WCH said:
It's not a problem useless it becomes one. MS/NSA?
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shrug...

If all that is something that concerns you, I would suggest Linux. While I've never used it, I've heard good things about it. But then, how can one REALLY be sure that an open source OS that you download from "somewhere" isn't doing something you won't like, eh?

If you don't read and understand every single line of code, you won't actually know exactly what it's doing, right?
 
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Mycroft said:
sigh...

Context is important...use it.

I ask that other member about his contention that Win8(.x) isn't supported any longer and presented a link that...if you had scrolled to the end of the article, you would have seen...gave information of how long each version of Windows is being supported. There was nothing in my post...no point I was trying to make...that had anything to do with how to deal with updates.

The old, "Look!! There's a squirrel!" perception will lead you down the wrong path every time.
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I understand the context point. its hard to read through pages of a thread to get it though sometimes.
Anyway my reply info is there for others should it be useful to them. how about we just go with that.
 
notquiteright said:
LOL, they put a power switch on your PC to prevent folks from coming in and doing stuff to/on your computer. Do you leave your windows open and doors unlocked when you leave your home???

Thank God you aren't a teen girl or your private life would be all over the You Tubes... ;)
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But Bill Gates is so rich, Windows must be the best at everything.

Lol...
 
Mycroft said:
shrug...

If all that is something that concerns you, I would suggest Linux. While I've never used it, I've heard good things about it. But then, how can one REALLY be sure that an open source OS that you download from "somewhere" isn't doing something you won't like, eh?

If you don't read and understand every single line of code, you won't actually know exactly what it's doing, right?
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My advice comes from my SiL who's in IT security. I'm more than willing to play MS's game but, I want to do it on my terms....when I'm ready.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Uh...I left muh settings to auto-update....and muh puter....updated.
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Well, correct me if I am wrong...

Once upon a time you could select whether or not to update and how updates occur if at all.


NOW there are only two options under windows 10.

1. Automatic

2. Notify to schedule restart.

That's it! No more "don't unless I choose to," or "Only those I select."

BTW, that "notify to schedule restart" is good only if you leave your system on, rather than turning it off like I do when I leave the house. When you turn the computer back on it "automatically updates" immediately.

So yeah, it appears that Microsoft has decided they know what's best for you and you don't need to have any settings that limit updating anymore.
 
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Captain Adverse said:
Well, correct me if I am wrong...

Once upon a time you could select whether or not to update and how updates occur if at all.


NOW there are only two options under windows 10.

1. Automatic

2. Notify to schedule restart.

That's it! No more "don't unless I choose to," or "Only those I select."

BTW, that "notify to schedule restart" is good only if you leave your system on, rather than turning it off like I do when I leave the house. When you turn the computer back on it "automatically updates" immediately.

So yeah, it appears that Microsoft has decided they know what's best for you and you don't need to have any settings that limit updating anymore.
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Um, the op has a 7 machine and was upset because it auto-updated. There is a setting for that.
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