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I was agreeing with you until you decided to take a pot shot at religion.
I think the shot was at god not religion. Big difference.
I was agreeing with you until you decided to take a pot shot at religion.
I rarely do this, but I'm going to pass on this one. I'm just not in the mood for that particular discussion tonight.
I'm wondering at what point parents turn the corner and decide they can't tolerate their off-the-rails kid (such as the kids that are in constant trouble at school / with the law / repeatedly causing issues - etc) and turn their back on them? How many wrongs and troublesome issues does it take for a parent to get to the point of complete and total apathy? To that point where people thinking your a terrible parent for wanting to dump your kid off on the church's front step doesn't even phase you?
How many children do you and your husband have?
Parents are the ones doing the hand-cuffing of teachers and administrators.
I'm wondering at what point parents turn the corner and decide they can't tolerate their off-the-rails kid (such as the kids that are in constant trouble at school / with the law / repeatedly causing issues - etc) and turn their back on them? How many wrongs and troublesome issues does it take for a parent to get to the point of complete and total apathy? To that point where people thinking your a terrible parent for wanting to dump your kid off on the church's front step doesn't even phase you?
Well I'd say either right around birth when you can put them up for adoption, or around the time legal responsibility ends at 18. In between? You paid for the ticket so you stay on the ride.
I admit it doesn't much help that our society has made it extremely difficult what with all the child abuse/child welfare laws interfering with reasonable discipline. Still, if we didn't want it that way we'd change the laws back again.
Having a child compels a duty to either give it away to a parent who wants it, or taking responsibility to raise it.
Yet parents punish or even abuse troublesome kids all the time - so I don't think that type of upbringing factors into the equation for many. Not sure what % that might be - but a certain level of personal 'I care' has to be present on part of the kid.
And yes - legally you have to 'care for' your kid to a certain age but emotionally and psychologically? At some point parents get to a point where they don't care anymore and the kid is on their own the moment they turn 18. I was thinking more about this emotionally or psychological tipping point.
None, quite happily so, and I don't believe in government marriage, nor would my relationship style be eligible for it even if I did.
But I live in the real world, and I had a family, and I am also capable of reading. Whatever view you have limited yourself to is not the sum total of human reality. It is only your self-limited view.
smoke, you are a very lucky person because you have been working as an editor for years despite your young age if I am not wrong.you have a long time to live ahead and you will want to have babies .our reality makes us believe we need to have a family.we cant live our lives by spending time at pubs .we need to grow up .what did life teach you,smoke ? I believe a loss taught you many things.now you still dont think not all fathers and mothers deserve respect ?
please.look at your own posts to see who is narcissist.you always teach the others the 'true.'.because you are the only one who knows it.you are an editor(!) for years and you imply I am narcissist.in many posts of yours I see you always tell the others about life as if they dont live anything and experience anything worth saying.you support SSM and you hate marriage.just stop thinking you know everything,my ' that is not true' friendWhat sort of narcissism makes you believe you know me better than I do?
When I was 15, they told me I'd change my mind at 20. When I turned 2, they said I'd change my mind at 25. When I turned 25, they said I'd change my mind at 30. And yet, I know childfree women who are in their 60's now and still haven't changed their mind.
You don't know a damn thing about anyone but yourself. And your self-important fixation on trying to tell other people how they feel is laughably out of touch.
Also, the fact that I haven't bred doesn't mean I live in pubs. There are many ways to have homes and relationships. Your lack of imagination has nothing to do with my actual life. It just means you lack imagination.
My advice would be to get more comfortable with your own life so you stop feeling a need to police other people's. This is a problem with you, not me.
Yes, loss has taught me many things, but hasn't changed how I feel about reproducing. One thing loss has taught me is that life is too short to care what others think of how you're living it.
The fact that I don't want to be a parent doesn't mean I don't respect parents. I respect good parents, and don't respect bad ones -- just like I respect good people in general and don't respect bad ones. They are not entitled to respect simply for having sex without birth control. Anyone can do that. That's not special.
please.look at your own posts to see who is narcissist.you always teach the others the 'true.'.because you are the only one who knows it.you are an editor(!) for years and you imply I am narcissist.in many posts of yours I see you always tell the others about life as if they dont live anything and experience anything worth saying.you support SSM and you hate marriage.just stop thinking you know everything,my ' that is not true' friend
not the churchI'm wondering at what point parents turn the corner and decide they can't tolerate their off-the-rails kid (such as the kids that are in constant trouble at school / with the law / repeatedly causing issues - etc) and turn their back on them? How many wrongs and troublesome issues does it take for a parent to get to the point of complete and total apathy? To that point where people thinking your a terrible parent for wanting to dump your kid off on the church's front step doesn't even phase you?
I'm wondering at what point parents turn the corner and decide they can't tolerate their off-the-rails kid (such as the kids that are in constant trouble at school / with the law / repeatedly causing issues - etc) and turn their back on them? How many wrongs and troublesome issues does it take for a parent to get to the point of complete and total apathy? To that point where people thinking your a terrible parent for wanting to dump your kid off on the church's front step doesn't even phase you?
"My name is Lieutenant Colonel Dad.
From now on you will speak only when spoken to and the first and last words out of your mouth will be sir!
Do you understand that you little worm ?!"
Sure. Worst case, it works for me.
I actually knew a dad who did all that, then at age 18 put the kid into the US Navy because he figured the kid could not survive USMC boot camp.
The kid was from his wife's first marriage and a brat -- always getting in trouble with the law and doing dope and alcohol under 18.
Did it work?
I'm wondering at what point parents turn the corner and decide they can't tolerate their off-the-rails kid (such as the kids that are in constant trouble at school / with the law / repeatedly causing issues - etc) and turn their back on them? How many wrongs and troublesome issues does it take for a parent to get to the point of complete and total apathy? To that point where people thinking your a terrible parent for wanting to dump your kid off on the church's front step doesn't even phase you?
I'm wondering at what point parents turn the corner and decide they can't tolerate their off-the-rails kid (such as the kids that are in constant trouble at school / with the law / repeatedly causing issues - etc) and turn their back on them? How many wrongs and troublesome issues does it take for a parent to get to the point of complete and total apathy? To that point where people thinking your a terrible parent for wanting to dump your kid off on the church's front step doesn't even phase you?