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Antarctic Sea Ice Has Not Shrunk In 100 Years...

Are these volume or extent?

Oh, wait. It's logbooks from some dude on a ship a century ago.
 
Not only has Antarctic sea ice not changed, but land based ice is expanding according to NASA study.

Antarctic Sea Ice Has Not Shrunk In 100 Years | Climate Depot

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"The findings demonstrate that the climate of Antarctica fluctuated significantly throughout the 20th century and indicates that sea ice in the Antarctic is much less sensitive to the effects of climate change than that of the Arctic, which has experienced a dramatic decline during the 20th century."

Regardless, very interesting article. Thanks Mickey !
 
Graph: Scientific American:
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/files/2012/09/naam-ice-031.jpg


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I am a bit suspect of the graph being global sea ice area, because the low in the Arctic, is the high in the Antarctic,
and while the Arctic has hit a low of around 4 million square kilometers, it did so
when the Antarctic was at about 14 million square kilometers.
Southern Hemisphere Sea Ice Area
Charctic Interactive Sea Ice Graph | Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis
 
Anyone who believes there is NO global warming at all is past ridiculous on this. These are the same kind of people who thought smoking was not bad for you until the 90's.

Do I know how bad global warming is? Nope.

But it is ridiculously obvious that it does exist to some extent.
 
I knew there was a problem with that graph! It cannot be global.
First off it compares August to September sea ice, but is dated to 2011,
so let's look at the global sea ice for August and September 15 for 2011 and see what the totals were.
Southern Hemisphere Sea Ice Area
Charctic Interactive Sea Ice Graph | Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis
August 15 2011
Arctic Sea Ice area 5.642 million square kilometers
Antarctic Sea Ice area 14.428 Million square kilometers
Global total Sea Ice Aug 15 2011 20.07 Million square kilometers.
The y axis of the graph does not even go that high,
perhaps September changed a lot, it is the lowest Sea Ice month in the Arctic.
September 15 2011
Arctic Sea Ice area 4.46 million square kilometers
Antarctic Sea Ice area 15.074 Million square kilometers
Global total Sea Ice Aug 15 2011 19.53 Million square kilometers.
I guess this means the graph cannot be about global sea ice levels!
 
Not only has Antarctic sea ice not changed, but land based ice is expanding according to NASA study.

Antarctic Sea Ice Has Not Shrunk In 100 Years | Climate Depot


Well, thats a fascinating take by the oil and gas lobbyist who runs that blog.

Of course, if you go to the original paper, which you have to go several links in to find, you'll see the abstract says this:


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Research article21 Nov 2016
Estimating the extent of Antarctic summer sea ice during the Heroic Age of Antarctic Exploration
Tom Edinburgh1,a and Jonathan J. Day1
1Department of Meteorology, University of Reading, Reading, UK
acurrently at: Department of Applied Mathematics and Theoretical Physics, University of Cambridge, Cambridge, UK
Received: 13 Apr 2016 – Published in The Cryosphere Discuss.: 29 Apr 2016
Revised: 11 Sep 2016 – Accepted: 18 Sep 2016 – Published: 21 Nov 2016
Abstract. In stark contrast to the sharp decline in Arctic sea ice, there has been a steady increase in ice extent around Antarctica during the last three decades, especially in the Weddell and Ross seas. In general, climate models do not to capture this trend and a lack of information about sea ice coverage in the pre-satellite period limits our ability to quantify the sensitivity of sea ice to climate change and robustly validate climate models. However, evidence of the presence and nature of sea ice was often recorded during early Antarctic exploration, though these sources have not previously been explored or exploited until now. We have analysed observations of the summer sea ice edge from the ship logbooks of explorers such as Robert Falcon Scott, Ernest Shackleton and their contemporaries during the Heroic Age of Antarctic Exploration (1897–1917), and in this study we compare these to satellite observations from the period 1989–2014, offering insight into the ice conditions of this period, from direct observations, for the first time. This comparison shows that the summer sea ice edge was between 1.0 and 1.7° further north in the Weddell Sea during this period but that ice conditions were surprisingly comparable to the present day in other sectors.

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In other words, it looks about the same, except it had a larger extent in one part - and that larger extent was somewhere between 1 degree and 1.7 degrees, which translates into about 70-120 miles farther north. Of course, this is only a tiny peice of the Antarctic, so what the actual conclusion of the article shows is that if there has been any change at all, the sea ice has retreated about 100 miles South.

Now, of course, the sea ice isnt that big of a deal - it seems that as the water temp gets warmer, the currents are allowing increases in sea ice around the Antartcic. The concern is the ice shelves and land glaciers. I think your oil and gas lobbyist blogger forgot to point out that these ice shelves are in rapid retreat, as shown in this study:
Widespread, rapid grounding line retreat of Pine Island,
Thwaites, Smith, and Kohler glaciers, West Antarctica,
from 1992 to 2011


And the ice shelves have been breaking and dumping spectacularly large pieces of ice into the sea and as has been pointed out by scientists, this breakup has been accelerating the speed in which glaciers are moving toward the ocean.

I'd advise you to get your science from scientists next time, instead of relying on Mark Morano, a paid shill for the energy industry.
 
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