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Galactic Mathematics

Tim the plumber said:
That is the same as normal but slightly more complex in explaination and similtaneous working.
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no, it is absolutely not the same and it isn't complex at all

Buy you really have to practice it. Have you done that?
 
Some quotes:

"I am teaching VM methods to my child now. He is very excited when I taught him the 2-digit multiplication and multiplication with 11. These days he is following only VM to do multiplications and he feels as if he is a magician. At school he surprised his friends by doing them with VM. I feel children adapt more easily to VM than adults."
Madhavi Bandi, Maths Teacher, UK
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"I only had heard about Vedic Maths. I knew it was fast and easy. But it is entirely different since I experience it. It's much easier, simpler, faster, more interesting, more exciting, and full of fun. I feel overwhelmed by the power of this Vedic Math- not known or heard before. I feel the more I delve into it, more treasure I am getting from it. I just don't want to come out of this most exciting, funfilled moments of my life. I told my brother, nephew, my son, and my family about this, and I said this Math is so much fun I never imagined before. I am simply excited about it, and want to keep doing it forever. I really want to share this magical maths with lot of people, and change their approach towards it. I want to help lot of students master some of the most difficult topics of Math using Vedic Math. I am totally excited about learning this new Math."
Tarlika Desai, Maths Teacher, US
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"Introduced my students of 1st, 2nd and 3rd grade to subtraction using all from 9 and the last from 10 for subtracting numbers near a base. They just loved the method. During the maths lab activity I had combined all the students together. And using this method the 1st grade students could compete with 2nd and 3rd grade students with the speed which I had not imagined. When I started learning VM 5 years back, there was a misconception that VM is only for high school students. But this training has proved it wrong. I can introduce even 1st grade students to VM and the results are amazing. They have started loving maths."
Shylashree Ravishankar, Teacher, India
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Some more quotes:

"For 11 years we have been struggling with math as a homeschooling family. After completing this week's video lessons all I can think of is the WASTED years. I do mean years. My oldest is 17 and my youngest now 2. I've been frantically looking for a math program that will help us learn math, love math, and really get a grip on numbers and the beauty of numbers. I've learned a few tricks along the way that will make math easier (counting backwards and skip counting backwards, ten frames) but nothing as simple and easy as this stuff. Good grief! We are making this so hard and at least in the USA our kids are learning very little of real math. . . . OK, I'm sold. "
Sonya Post, Teacher, USA
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"VM is amazing and we have seen a lot of results, we actually had a student struggling with the basics of Math for years; she came to us in 7th grade for about 6 months and really changed a lot. I met with her mom (a special education teacher) a month ago; with our help she finished 8 grade with math honors! Mom said it's clearly due to the VM lessons and she is now using them all the time!"
Hagit Genosar, Teacher, USA
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"The more I am learning the more awed I feel about the simplicity of the Vedic System. I shared one of the addition technique with some my students and reactions on their faces were amazing. One common question they all had was when this method is so simple and can be done mentally why are we taught the cumbersome method in the school? I told them that this system was lost/ignored for many many years and now people have realized their importance and would be used more and more. I am having a wonderful experience of learning and teaching........can't wait for the next set of lessons!!"
Mudaliar Shraddha, Teacher, USA
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And some more;

"If I'd have had VM 15 years ago it would have saved our family years of grief and stress. We homeschool and math has been the thorn in our side since grade 2. Everything was made to be hard and difficult. How beautiful and simple VM is! At first I was annoyed that we wasted so much time, but now I am grateful to have had the experience of going through the transitional route as now we can see clearly the beauty of VM and how blessed my youngest child and my students will be to experience VM very young. "
Sonya Post, Teacher, USA
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"Recently (on Dec 15th) I gave a two hour presentation in Monroe, Louisiana. The audience were spell bound and the organizers received an amazing feedback. They video taped the program and took an interview for 5 minutes at the end."
Sreenivasa Ainapurapu, Vedic mathematician, USA
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"Even our weakest maths student Sukaran mastered it so well that he remarked, "Come what may, I can never get the question of simultaneous equations wrong in the GCSE examination"."
Rajni Obhrai, maths teacher, U.K. (quoting a student)
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"I taught calculating squares and square roots to 9th grade kids on this street and they had their mouth wide open in amazement. They said they especially hated finding square roots the traditional way. Now they want me to take a VM boot camp during their Dasara holidays (from 14-30 of this month) and cover Algebra and relevant topics. I wish the teachers can witness this interest and growth in the children learning VM techniques and are open to give it a try."
Sunitha Ramaiah, teacher, USA
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Now,

How about 1/19 and the cube root of 438976?
 
Pin dÁr said:
Now,

How about 1/19 and the cube root of 438976?
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Is it possible to do things like quadratic equations, let alone calculus and trigonometry with this 'system?' are you a pioneer on this, or, are you just 'resurrecting it?'
 
BrettNortje said:
Is it possible to do things like quadratic equations, let alone calculus and trigonometry with this 'system?'
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yes, it is as I stated in the beginning.

I wrote this in my first posting, here:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/science-and-technology/267075-galactic-mathematics.html#post1066427713

Oh and yes, one can do arithematics, trigonometry, calculus and so on and so forth.
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Later on I will give some , in my eyes spectacular, examples of these.

are you a pioneer on this, or, are you just 'resurrecting it?'
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I do not quit understand what you are asking me here.
 
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Now, again



How about 1/19 and the cube root of 438976?

Who can show me how to do this the conventional way.

This is not a test, I just want to compare the two systems.
 
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In the mean time, working with bases.

How about

49 x 48=?

immediately we see there are both close to the number 50.

So, we will use 50 as our base here.


Well, we see 49 is 1 and 48 is 2 numbers from the number 50.

Now 100/2=50

Then we work it out in the following way:

49 -1 (because 50-1=49)
48 -2 (because 50-2=48)
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Then we multiply -1x-2=2

and put it on the r.h.s

and 48-1=47 or 49-2=47 we put on the l.h.s.

so: we have, in the 50 based system:

49-1
48-2
____
47 | 2

Now we have to put a '0' before the 2

and we have to calculate 47/2=23,5 because 50=100/2

so now we have

49-1
48-2
___
23,5 | 02

Now we have to move the 0,5 to the right.

so 0,5 become a 5 there and we are done!

49-1
48-2
____
2352

Much easier do to then to write it down!
 
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To work a lot with these bases one can use the sutra: "All from nine and the last from 10" (Nikhilam)

E.g. we have to do:



1000-687= ?

write it down as follows:

1000
..687 (those points are here only to put the numbers in the right place nothing more.)
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then we go from left to right and we startm in this case, at the most left '0' and we calculate

9-6=3, then the next '0' and we calculate 9-8=1m and the moast right '0', 10-7=3

so now we have:

1000
..687
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313



We can use this a lot when we are working with bases and have to substract from a base:

E.g.

998
972
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we have to calculate 1000-998=2
and 1000-972=28 ( do this is and see how fast this works with this sutra!)

then we proceed:

998-2
972-28
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970 | 56

and we have to put a '0' in front of the '56' becaus e our base is '1000' now

and we have

970056

Voila!
 
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Well,

How about 1/19 and the cube root of 438976?

Who can show me how to do this the conventional way.

This is not a test, I just want to compare the two systems.



No one?
 
no one? Come on.
 
I purchased three books on the subject.

Currently learning guitar/music and plant biology are on my current list of study subjects.

I will tackle this when I am comfortable with those other two.

Thank you though for the info. It is fascinating.
 
RetiredNSmilin said:
I purchased three books on the subject.
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Nice to hear! which ones if I may ask?

Currently learning guitar/music and plant biology are on my current list of study subjects.
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ok. interesting.

I will tackle this when I am comfortable with those other two.
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That's ok, but can you show me how it is done the conventional way, that is 1/19
and the cube root of 438976?

Thank you though for the info. It is fascinating.
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You are welcome. Yes, it is fascinating. And even if you delve more into it, as I do, you become more and more to respect the whole system. It's elegance, simplicity. coherent, beautifull and, of course very important, very very effective.

Because what other system can give you the answer of the following equation:


1/(x+4) + 1/(x+3)=1/(x+2) + 1/(x+5)

in 5 seconds, eh?!


But you can only really appreciate this all at a very deep level if you work with it.
 
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RetiredNSmilin said:
I plant biology are on my current list of study subjects.
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Do you know about the work of Cleve Beckster about plants? fascinating to say the least!

Plants are so much more then what people think they are!






oh well ok, back on topic.
 
Pin dÁr said:
Do you know about the work of Cleve Beckster about plants? fascinating to say the least!

Plants are so much more then what people think they are!






oh well ok, back on topic.
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No, I am not familiar with his work, but I will check it out and see.

Thanks.
 
Pin dÁr said:
Nice to hear! which ones if I may ask?



ok. interesting.



That's ok, but can you show me how it is done the conventional way, that is 1/19
and the cube root of 438976?



You are welcome. Yes, it is fascinating. And even if you delve more into it, as I do, you become more and more to respect the whole system. It's elegance, simplicity. coherent, beautifull and, of course very important, very very effective.

Because what other system can give you the answer of the following equation:


1/(x+4) + 1/(x+3)=1/(x+2) + 1/(x+5)

in 5 seconds, eh?!


But you can only really appreciate this all at a very deep level if you work with it.
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1. I got VEDIC MATHEMATICS by His Holiness (long name inserted here) Puri 1884-1969.
2. Vedic Mathematics made Easy by Dhaval Bathia
3. Shortcut Math by Gerald Kelly
and
4. Secrets of Mental math by Benjamin and Shermer

as for performing the other calculations,

1/19 = 0.0526315

and the cube root of 438976 is 76. It seems 438976 is a perfect cube in that 76 x 76 x76 = 438976.
 
Now that I did some research, yes, I have heard of his studies before.

He was the guy who reasoned the plants "felt" the pain of the small brine shrimp as they were dumped into boiling water.

He was also the guy who rigged plants with lie detector gear and saw they reacted similar to humans and believed they have emotions just like we do.

I guess I need to start talking nice to my peppermint plant I put in the ground recently. It seems to need a whole lot of water or it shrivels up every other day or so.

The Rosemary is doing just fine.
 
RetiredNSmilin said:
No, I am not familiar with his work, but I will check it out and see.

Thanks.
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Debunked a while back.
Because all living organisms emit a slight electric pulse, the MythBusters connected the plant to a pulse-reading EEG machine, which is more sensitive than Backster's vintage polygraph. Then Grant set the timer on a machine in the plant's sight line that would catapult the eggs into boiling water at random intervals and left the room.

Although the eggs faced a fate worse than Humpty Dumpty's, the plant showed no regard whatsoever. The EEG results revealed no spikes in dracaena electrical activity, leaving the myth — and a whole lot of eggs — totally cracked.

Do Plants Have Feelings? | MythBusters | Discovery

Rationally Speaking: Peas and quiet
 
Pin dÁr said:
I really think that 'conventional' mathematics is obsolete,

It is a stupid, awkward, retarded and backward system.

Galacatic or Vedic Mathematics on the other hand is elegant, consistent, beautifull, extremely fast etc.

But what is Galactic or Vedic Mathematics (VM)?

It is a mathematical system based on verses or sutra's ,

A small example:

In VM one calculates 35 x 35 very very fast by using the sutra:

"One more then the one before" also called: "'ekadhikena purvena'"


Her it goes:

35 x 35=?

Take the '3' (this is the one before), add 1 (one more) =4 and the calculate (by) (3x4=12)

Then put this '12' in front and end with '25"

35 x 35=1225


Another example:

75 x 75= (7x(7+1=8))| 25=5625 and voila!


Oh and yes, one can do arithematics, trigonometry, calculus and so on and so forth.

But one has to really DO IT, to appreciate it on a deep level.





Yes, conventional math is obsolete!
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If I can just multiply those numbers in my head why in the world would I want to go through that long and convoluted cluster****?

This reminds me of substituting a grade school math class once. I can't remember the name of the method but it was essentially teaching the kids how the math works vs. actually doing it. And it was no wonder when these same kids ended up in high school the math teachers were besides themselves that these kids lacked rudimentary math skills.
 
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RetiredNSmilin said:
1. I got VEDIC MATHEMATICS by His Holiness (long name inserted here) Puri 1884-1969.
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Good! That is the basics! The classic.

2. Vedic Mathematics made Easy by Dhaval Bathia
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ok.




3. Shortcut Math by Gerald Kelly
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ok, didn't know that one.thanks.

4. Secrets of Mental math by Benjamin and Shermer
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Yeah, I know that one and in it "Shermer" stole most of it from Vedic Math!


But thanks for mentioning the books.


as for performing the other calculations,

1/19 = 0.0526315
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Yes, but HOW is it done? The conventional way? As far as what you show here, it could be done by a calculator.


and the cube root of 438976 is 76. It seems 438976 is a perfect cube in that 76 x 76 x76 = 438976.
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same here. HOW is it done? Yes, it is a perfect cube.
 
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zyzygy said:
Debunked a while back.
Because all living organisms emit a slight electric pulse, the MythBusters connected the plant to a pulse-reading EEG machine, which is more sensitive than Backster's vintage polygraph. Then Grant set the timer on a machine in the plant's sight line that would catapult the eggs into boiling water at random intervals and left the room.

Although the eggs faced a fate worse than Humpty Dumpty's, the plant showed no regard whatsoever. The EEG results revealed no spikes in dracaena electrical activity, leaving the myth — and a whole lot of eggs — totally cracked.

Do Plants Have Feelings? | MythBusters | Discovery

Rationally Speaking: Peas and quiet
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Yawnnn. Mythbusters?? ha ha ha ha! debunked my ass!
Mythbusters are so called 'gate keepers"! I even wouldn't trust them to tell me the time, in a clock factory! They are ridiculous!

You probably have not studied the works of Beckster himself I pressume?

Anyway, let's return to the topic on hand.
 
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