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How to tell if Windows 10 has been loaded on your system.

Only other thing I didn't like is that it had me set a pin number, and then next time I turned on the machine, I needed the pin to proceed, but I disabled that. Very easy. Still want to know if my card does DX12 and want to see it in action.

Well to be honest the pin option was an upgrade from the standard option in Windows 7 of a password. So far I am keeping it because it is simple, but yea it can be disabled... it might piss me off so much that I disable it in the future.
 
Well, I still have Windows 8 on my system. I have disabled automatic updates because I don't want Windows 8.1.

Since 8.1 contains second or third generation tracking programing, I must presume that Windows 10 is even more invasive.

Good luck with it.

As for me I am still trying to figure out how to find an operating system that simply does what it is supposed to do....allow my computer to function on and off line without the provider invading my privacy.

Are you really worried about tracking programs in main-line software?
 
Are you really worried about tracking programs in main-line software?

One of the courses I took in Law School was Computers and the Law. Up until that point I was a pretty typical consumer when it came to computer ownership and usage. Then I found out about all the kinds of invasive programming being developed by manufacturers, the government, and hackers. My eyes were opened tp the insidious invasions of privacy that go on all the time right under our noses.

I'm not talking about secret alerts for criminal activity, although that may be problematic. Nope, I am talking about collecting and collating financial information, relationship information, personal history, interests, aversions, desires, etc. which are then used for all sorts of purposes without your knowledge or consent.

So yeah, I am worried about tracking programs in "main line software" because they should not be there! When I buy a product I don't expected it to be "bugged" so the manufacturer, or anyone else can invade my privacy for their own purposes.
 
One of the courses I took in Law School was Computers and the Law. Up until that point I was a pretty typical consumer when it came to computer ownership and usage. Then I found out about all the kinds of invasive programming being developed by manufacturers, the government, and hackers. My eyes were opened tp the insidious invasions of privacy that go on all the time right under our noses.

I'm not talking about secret alerts for criminal activity, although that may be problematic. Nope, I am talking about collecting and collating financial information, relationship information, personal history, interests, aversions, desires, etc. which are then used for all sorts of purposes without your knowledge or consent.

So yeah, I am worried about tracking programs in "main line software" because they should not be there! When I buy a product I don't expected it to be "bugged" so the manufacturer, or anyone else can invade my privacy for their own purposes.

The stay off the internet and mobile phones.. hell phones in general. They are all tracking you in one way or another. These boards.. tracking what you do on these boards. From this, if the board owners wanted too, they could target you with specific advertisements and sell that information to a 3rd party.
 
I checked my Corona and I don't see any windows at all.
 
Well to be honest the pin option was an upgrade from the standard option in Windows 7 of a password. So far I am keeping it because it is simple, but yea it can be disabled... it might piss me off so much that I disable it in the future.

You can instead sign in with your outlook / hotmail account and password ~ however for anyone worrying about the OS software tracking you, it's right up there.

I like the free OneNote and personal edition of MS Office but they do follow you around from machine to machine too, making the notion of being traced / tracked very hard to dismiss.
 
You can instead sign in with your outlook / hotmail account and password ~ however for anyone worrying about the OS software tracking you, it's right up there.

Yea.. sign in with an 8+ digit code instead of a 4+ digit pin.. no brainer if you ask em. You Windows 8/10 machine needs to be logged into your Microsoft account to benefit fully of its functions.. so

I like the free OneNote and personal edition of MS Office but they do follow you around from machine to machine too, making the notion of being traced / tracked very hard to dismiss.

Any place you "log in".. tracks you regardless of OS.
 
Yea.. sign in with an 8+ digit code instead of a 4+ digit pin.. no brainer if you ask em.~

I was simply showing that an alternative still exists...................
 
I was simply showing that an alternative still exists...................

Of course :) Although the new logon system they have built in, that requires a special Intel camera looks very promising. Same system is used with fingerprint scanners.
 
When I ran the troubleshooter, it gave the reasons why I couldn't run 10 and what to do to fix the reasons. Three patches and three reboots later, I now have the Windows 10 icon and can register.

What is a patch?
 
Well, I finally downloaded Windows 10 for my desktop, yesterday. I had to download in during the 5 free hours of downloads that I am allowed through my satellite system. It took all 5 hours and then some. Now, I am at 8.9 gbytes and have only 1.1 left until I go back to zero on August 12. The file was huge at 2.669 gigabytes. My connection has a pretty slow transmission speed as well, something like 180 kilobits per second. Talk about slow, but when I got up the next morning, I was glad to see that it was busy installing itself.

So far, I don't think much of the new operating system. I have the opportunity to roll it back to Windows 8.1 for a month. Well, I suppose I will stay with 10, but there's nothing to like about it. The whole interface that I have learned to like with Windows 8 and 8.1 is gone. One big problem is that Microsoft has removed your ability to control when it updates your system. In 8 and 8.1 all you had to do was go into Control Panel, click on the update section, and tell Windows, you wanted to be notified of updates and would decide when or if you would download them. Now, you can't even find the update app. It is nowhere to be found within Control Panel. I finally discovered that if you click on the icon in the lower right corner of your screen, the one that looks like a newspaper bulletin board, then click on "all settings", then click on the last icon that looks like a circle, you can go to Windows Update, but you can't do anything because Windows has you locked out. At least, they think they have, but there is a workaround for people like me, who don't have unlimited downloads.

Here's the workaround, as I see it from the following website:

How to Change Windows Update Settings When Managed or Disabled by System Administrator? - AskVG

1. Type gpedit.msc (group policy editor) in run box and press Enter.
2. On right side of box, click Computer Configuration.
3. Double-click Administrative Templates.
4. Double-click Windows Components.
5. Scroll down and double-click Windows Update.
6. Double-click Configure Automatic Updates.
7. Click Enabled.
8. In the drop down box, select 2 - Notify for download and notify for install.

One of my other pet peeves regarding the update system in 10 is that you can't see how big the patch is that you're supposed to download unlike in 8 and 8.1. That's important to me because I have to know the size of the files I download. Otherwise, I will be in the hole with Wild Blue.
 
What is a patch?

A Patch is a fix that is applied to the operating system. Two of mine came from Windows Update, and one came from HP. The troubleshooter called them out and even provided the link to go get them.
 
So now the new notifications thing is trying to sell me stuff. Windows 10, with pre-installed adware...
 
So now the new notifications thing is trying to sell me stuff. Windows 10, with pre-installed adware...

Err okay that is the first time I have heard that. Are you sure you are not infected by malware? What is it trying to "sell" you? Remember the notifications system has also taken over the pop bit of the launch bar. For example, if Java came up and said there was an update, then it would go to the notification bar now, not pop up from the launch bar.
 
Err okay that is the first time I have heard that. Are you sure you are not infected by malware? What is it trying to "sell" you? Remember the notifications system has also taken over the pop bit of the launch bar. For example, if Java came up and said there was an update, then it would go to the notification bar now, not pop up from the launch bar.

It is trying to sell me Office.
 
It is trying to sell me Office.

Okay. I thought it was 3rd party ads. Office "selling" has been going on since XP.. it has nothing to do with Windows 10, but has to do with having the office files on the machine (most likely). Un-install anything Office related and they will stop.
 
Okay. I thought it was 3rd party ads. Office "selling" has been going on since XP.. it has nothing to do with Windows 10, but has to do with having the office files on the machine (most likely). Un-install anything Office related and they will stop.

LOLwhut? Ive had XP for years and it never tried to sell me msoffice. My Win7 doesnt try to sell me msoffice either.
 
LOLwhut? Ive had XP for years and it never tried to sell me msoffice. My Win7 doesnt try to sell me msoffice either.

As I said, or tried to say, it requires that Office files are already installed on the machine. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with Windows. It is often part of the "bloatware" that comes pre-installed on machines bought from the most of big vendors. It is nothing new.
 
Okay. I thought it was 3rd party ads. Office "selling" has been going on since XP.. it has nothing to do with Windows 10, but has to do with having the office files on the machine (most likely). Un-install anything Office related and they will stop.

I do not have, nor have I had, office installed on this computer.
 
I do not have, nor have I had, office installed on this computer.

Press start, all apps, press g and there might be a "get office" app. Remove that.
 
Press start, all apps, press g and there might be a "get office" app. Remove that.

Now that's interesting!! And thanks for the tip.

The thing is, I got Office 2013 for free (for one year) on my tablet and it allowed me to install it on one or two other devices...I forget which. So I installed it on my desktop. This was long before Win10 was released. I've actually never used Office on either device, though, and I had forgotten about it.

Well, I did that "g" thing and sure enough, I have "Get Office" on the list. When I click on it, up pops a window that tells me my Office 2013 is up to date, so everything is cool.
 
I do not have, nor have I had, office installed on this computer.

It pretty much means Win10 has got bloat/adware bundled in, something our resident Microsoft reps deny. ;)
 
It pretty much means Win10 has got bloat/adware bundled in, something our resident Microsoft reps deny. ;)

Horse**** as usual. You hatred for Windows is getting to be far far far worse than my issue with Apple. The difference here is that Office or Skype, aka the "bloat" is not pre-installed... which is normally a requirement for it be called bloat in the first place!
 
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