I find it more than a little disturbing that the worst monsters on the planet, be they serial killers, rapists, or pedophiles can live their entire life in violence and sin but if they become christians with their dying breaths they'll live forever in paradise. Yet someone who was honest, peaceful and moral their entire lives but didn't pick the right religion will burn for eternity.
Why does this serial killer deserve forgiveness and mercy but Grandma Sally doesn't? Frankly I'd like to see a little more justice in this world and the next.
No, it's the magical thinking of the believers.
You can't understand it because you judge from a worldly perspective. You look at her as a pretty good citizen of the world, but does grandma Sally sin against God? The answer is yes.
We are all sinners and all deserve death. You won't accept that. You want to believe you are a pretty good guy. That is the view of man without God.
The one thing we must do to be saved from the death we all deserve is to believe in the One that God sent.
8 “When evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, ‘Call the workers and pay them their wages, beginning with the last ones hired and going on to the first.’
9 “The workers who were hired about five in the afternoon came and each received a denarius. 10 So when those came who were hired first, they expected to receive more. But each one of them also received a denarius. 11 When they received it, they began to grumble against the landowner. 12 ‘These who were hired last worked only one hour,’ they said, ‘and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden of the work and the heat of the day.’
13 “But he answered one of them, ‘I am not being unfair to you, friend. Didn’t you agree to work for a denarius? 14 Take your pay and go. I want to give the one who was hired last the same as I gave you. 15 Don’t I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?’
Actually, having been a devout christian for 22 years in an extremely devout family and community, I know both sides of the argument. I'm simply pointing out the moral injustice. If you're right, absolutely nothing in your life matters except the last minute. You can rape, murder, steal, curse god and live in total immoral hedonism, so long as you sincerely repent right before you die. The man in the video is a serial killer. His victims didn't have the luxury of having years to think and repent, they were killed in most cases without warning. So many of his victims are burning in hell while he is celebrating in heaven, because he robbed them of the chance to repent.
Can you explain to me how god can have an infinite amount of forgiveness and patience for rapists, pedophiles and mass murders, but absolutely zero mercy for you if your crime is skepticism? Rape and murder are totally OK, but not knowing which religion to pick is the worst thing you could do. What kind of place is heaven if serial killers like this are there while most of the world's moral, non-violent population won't be?
I find it more than a little disturbing that the worst monsters on the planet, be they serial killers, rapists, or pedophiles can live their entire life in violence and sin but if they become christians with their dying breaths they'll live forever in paradise. Yet someone who was honest, peaceful and moral their entire lives but didn't pick the right religion will burn for eternity.
Why does this serial killer deserve forgiveness and mercy but Grandma Sally doesn't? Frankly I'd like to see a little more justice in this world and the next.
I would contend that any such "life transformation" (especially a life that isn't about to end) actually comes from people, not from a book. Regardless of the veracity of what's written in it, it's our interactions with people that define us. And I think it is unhealthy to miscredit something else, as it leads us not to value people the way we should.
I would contend that any such "life transformation" (especially a life that isn't about to end) actually comes from people, not from a book. Regardless of the veracity of what's written in it, it's our interactions with people that define us. And I think it is unhealthy to miscredit something else, as it leads us not to value people the way we should.
tosca1 said:That transformation reflects in their interactions with other people.
I find it more than a little disturbing that the worst monsters on the planet, be they serial killers, rapists, or pedophiles can live their entire life in violence and sin but if they become christians with their dying breaths they'll live forever in paradise. Yet someone who was honest, peaceful and moral their entire lives but didn't pick the right religion will burn for eternity.
Why does this serial killer deserve forgiveness and mercy but Grandma Sally doesn't? Frankly I'd like to see a little more justice in this world and the next.
How do you know Grandma Sally can't?
According to the Scriptures, there is only ONE WAY to get to paradise. All she has to do is to have faith and become a disciple of Jesus.
If someone invites you to come to their house, and you keep refusing to accept the invitation.......how will you ever get in there?
The problem is that Grandma Sally was sent 1000 invitations from 1000 different "gods", and there's no way to determine which invitation is genuine and which are fake. Everything makes sense to you because you started with the assumption that christianity is right. When you realize that your religion is almost entirely dependent on your parents and your geographic location, your train of thought completely falls apart.
Please explain why someone should be tortured for eternity for failing to identify the correct god of thousands.