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Quran mentions fingertips
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Of all the things that matter in the Quran to the discussion on the nature of this religion, the quote you went with means very little.
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I think it may have been a satire thread that was meant to poke fun at the multiple instances in which people quote the Quran as having something in it.
Of course, given the character of the OP, I could just be over-thinking this...
Of course, given the character of the OP, I could just be over-thinking this...
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October 2014 | What Is The Purpose Of Life?
Genn Ginsen (1856) found out that the pattern of lines at the tip of a person’s finger was something unique to the individual. Until the year 1856, we knew nothing about this amazing characteristic of fingertips. The discovery of the fact that the pattern of lines on fingertips was a sort of identity card is often used by the police to help find criminals
Genn Ginsen (1856) found out that the pattern of lines at the tip of a person’s finger was something unique to the individual. Until the year 1856, we knew nothing about this amazing characteristic of fingertips. The discovery of the fact that the pattern of lines on fingertips was a sort of identity card is often used by the police to help find criminals
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Two legible posts from Medusa, and in the same thread! She should start copying and pasting stuff more often!
...Still have no idea what the point of this thread is, but we'll get there!
...Still have no idea what the point of this thread is, but we'll get there!
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Eros the goddess of dawn was identified singularly by her rosy fingertips in Greek literature.
Although I don't think she's going to initiate a Day of Judgement and rain hellfire on people's heads.
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This blog does not prove all that much. We have no real evidence of this being much other than an accidental find, and a presumption that fingertip uniqueness has some sort of divine inspiration on meaning and applicability.
Quran 75 is more or less about the issue of Resurrection Day, and the notion that God will bring back from the dead those faithful down to the reconstruction of their very bones and fingertips. The idea was to convey scale of such an event while also showing specifics of each individual from God's all knowing capacity. The use of the term fingerprints simply denotes interpretation of specifics, nothing more nothing less.
Accepting that the author of the text understood the concept of unique fingertips is only secondary to the entire purpose and context of the chapter. Said another way, just bringing up the Quran mentioning fingertips without context is meaningless. Quran is also not the only religious or otherwise sacred text to mention the idea of human uniqueness, in various methods.
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Okay then. Would you please explain to me what the purpose of quoting that specific passage of the Quran is? I honestly do not know what the intended purpose and direction of this thread are.
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I warn you to stop your personal attacks and trolling.you liked orphan'S post and it means you are just trolling now!
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No, it doesn't. His post was well written, and he genuinely took the topic seriously. I politely asked for clarification of this topic, since there's so little information to go on.
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But the Koran doesn't mention that in your quote just says god can make finger tips
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no ,you just dont want to see it
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um its not their the line dose not say every 1 has different lines on them it just says god can make finger tips any creator god would make finger tips that dose support the existence of any gods
what is the point of this thread?
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Yes, I think the OP and her link confused fingerTips with FingerPrints/Whorls.
It's like claiming the phrase "head to toe" predicts hair color and footprints.
In any case, 630 AD would not be close to first.
Fingerprint - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Antiquity and the medieval period
Fingerprints have been found on ancient Babylonian clay tablets, seals, and pottery.[44][45][46][47] They have also been found on the walls of Egyptian tombs and on Minoan, Greek, and Chinese[48] pottery, as well as on bricks and tiles from ancient Babylon and Rome. Some of these fingerprints were deposited unintentionally by the potters and masons as a natural consequence of their work, and others were made in the process of adding decoration. However, on some pottery, fingerprints have been impressed so deeply into the clay that they were possibly Intended to serve as an Identifying mark by the maker.
Fingerprints were used as signatures in ancient Babylon in the Second Millennium BCE.[49] In order to protect against Forgery, parties to a Legal Contract would impress their Fingerprints into a clay tablet on which the contract had been written.
By 246 BCE, Chinese officials were impressing their fingerprints into the clay seals used to seal documents. With the advent of silk and paper in China, parties to a Legal contract impressed their Handprints on the document.
Sometime before 851 CE, an Arab merchant in China, Abu Zayd Hasan, witnessed CHINESE merchants using Fingerprints to authenticate Loans.[50] By 702, Japan allowed illiterate petitioners seeking a divorce to "sign" their petitions with a fingerprint.[51][52]
Although ancient peoples probably did not realize that fingerprints could uniquely identify individuals,[53] references from the age of the Babylonian king Hammurabi (1792-1750 BCE) indicate that law officials would take the fingerprints of people who had been arrested.[54]
During China's Qin Dynasty, records have shown that officials took hand prints, foot prints as well as finger prints as evidence from a crime scene.[55] In China, around 300 CE, Handprints were used as Evidence in a Trial for Theft.
By 650, the Chinese historian Kia Kung-Yen remarked that Fingerprints could be used as a means of Authentication.[56]
In his Jami al-Tawarikh (Universal History), the Persian physician Rashid-al-Din Hamadani (also known as "Rashideddin", 1247–1318) refers to the Chinese practice of identifying people via their fingerprints, commenting: "Experience shows that no two individuals have fingers exactly alike."[57] In Persia at this time, government documents may have been authenticated with thumbprints.
Fingerprints have been found on ancient Babylonian clay tablets, seals, and pottery.[44][45][46][47] They have also been found on the walls of Egyptian tombs and on Minoan, Greek, and Chinese[48] pottery, as well as on bricks and tiles from ancient Babylon and Rome. Some of these fingerprints were deposited unintentionally by the potters and masons as a natural consequence of their work, and others were made in the process of adding decoration. However, on some pottery, fingerprints have been impressed so deeply into the clay that they were possibly Intended to serve as an Identifying mark by the maker.
Fingerprints were used as signatures in ancient Babylon in the Second Millennium BCE.[49] In order to protect against Forgery, parties to a Legal Contract would impress their Fingerprints into a clay tablet on which the contract had been written.
By 246 BCE, Chinese officials were impressing their fingerprints into the clay seals used to seal documents. With the advent of silk and paper in China, parties to a Legal contract impressed their Handprints on the document.
Sometime before 851 CE, an Arab merchant in China, Abu Zayd Hasan, witnessed CHINESE merchants using Fingerprints to authenticate Loans.[50] By 702, Japan allowed illiterate petitioners seeking a divorce to "sign" their petitions with a fingerprint.[51][52]
Although ancient peoples probably did not realize that fingerprints could uniquely identify individuals,[53] references from the age of the Babylonian king Hammurabi (1792-1750 BCE) indicate that law officials would take the fingerprints of people who had been arrested.[54]
During China's Qin Dynasty, records have shown that officials took hand prints, foot prints as well as finger prints as evidence from a crime scene.[55] In China, around 300 CE, Handprints were used as Evidence in a Trial for Theft.
By 650, the Chinese historian Kia Kung-Yen remarked that Fingerprints could be used as a means of Authentication.[56]
In his Jami al-Tawarikh (Universal History), the Persian physician Rashid-al-Din Hamadani (also known as "Rashideddin", 1247–1318) refers to the Chinese practice of identifying people via their fingerprints, commenting: "Experience shows that no two individuals have fingers exactly alike."[57] In Persia at this time, government documents may have been authenticated with thumbprints.
IOW, Beside Baylonians, Chinese, etc being first...
It seems Muslims (Arab and Persian traders) serendipitously discovered fingerprints from Chinese travel, Not the Koran. It was News to Persian Historian Rashideddin still - at app 1300 AD - because it's just not in the book.
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