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What kind of worship does God expect from us?

phattonez said:
No it's not. Even the Bible itself disagrees. 1 Timothy 3:15: "if I am delayed, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth."

Back to substance and accidents, you didn't answer the question. Why did Aristotle define the concepts? What paradox did it refute?

Here's a nice primer on why you need a division between accident and substance to explain change:
Aristotle on Change

And another good source:
http://www.aquinasonline.com/Topics/change.html
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Look, I try to provide as much grace as I can to posters who are honestly and carefully trying to present their beliefs, but if you read through the BCP I supplied you will see that the character of our Eucharistic service is decidedly Eastern in thought and in many ways taken from the Patristic period, and therefore wholly authentic, if not Roman Catholic. It is designed to be in harmony with both early Church practices and scripture.

Furthermore, I do not "challenge Church authority" because I am a duly ordained minister of the Church Catholic, complete with three lines of succession that date back to the ancient Church.
 
it's just me said:
Faith is irrational?
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Absolutely not, which is why the concept of transsubstantiation brings together faith in the Real Presence and the ability to rationally explain it.
 
it's just me said:
Look, I try to provide as much grace as I can to posters who are honestly and carefully trying to present their beliefs, but if you read through the BCP I supplied you will see that the character of our Eucharistic service is decidedly Eastern in thought and in many ways taken from the Patristic period, and therefore wholly authentic, if not Roman Catholic. It is designed to be in harmony with both early Church practices and scripture.

Furthermore, I do not "challenge Church authority" because I am a duly ordained minister of the Church Catholic, complete with three lines of succession that date back to the ancient Church.
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So are you not going to tell me what problem you have with transsubstantiation and why you reject it?
 
phattonez said:
So are you not going to tell me what problem you have with transsubstantiation and why you reject it?
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I already have, several times. What do you want from me?
 
it's just me said:
I already have, several times. What do you want from me?
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I want a specific answer. On what basis do you reject transsubstantiation? Because the word is not mentioned in the Bible? So far you've only given vague responses.
 
phattonez said:
I want a specific answer. On what basis do you reject transsubstantiation? Because the word is not mentioned in the Bible? So far you've only given vague responses.
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I think we are done here. I have given my reasons both explicitly and implicitly.
 
it's just me said:
I think we are done here. I have given my reasons both explicitly and implicitly.
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The only words have been "repugnant to scripture", yet you cite no verses or make any argument to substantiate that claim.
 
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