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When Jesus was born

When Jesus was born

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Medusa

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JUG said:
It's said that carbon-dating rules the birth of Jesus in the summer.
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Carbon-dating of what precisely?
 
ChezC3 said:
Carbon-dating of what precisely?
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I can't give say for sure, and I don't want to give you false information, but I remember my theology professor telling us they carbon-dated the cloth that Jesus gave to Mary Magdolen.
 
Dont know. Hell he may of never been born...
 
JUG said:
I can't give say for sure, and I don't want to give you false information, but I remember my theology professor telling us they carbon-dated the cloth that Jesus gave to Mary Magdolen.
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And you believed that?
 
I do not know, nor does anyone else. The date we go with was assigned much later for a time period where no one recorded that sort of thing for the overwhelming majority of the people.
 
From the combination of the star, Herod's death, and shepherds being in the fields with their flocks, then February/March 4/3BC is a contender. If it happened.
 
imagep said:
And you believed that?
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Well, the cloth has been found and it's in a museum. I can't say for sure if I believe exactly what it stands for, but I do believe that Jesus wiped his face with it.
 
According to biblical canon it probably wasn't December
 
Medusa said:
interesting but l forget it and just feel christmas in december:mrgreen:
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Nothing wrong with that imo. I tire of its commercialism though. I'm sick of the TV ads and the obnoxious holiday spice scented fumes
 
Jesus follows the story of Osiris almost to the letter, and Osiris was born in the Spring.

The Christians put his birth celebration at this time of year to compete with the Winter Solstice celebrations of the Pagans.

I don't know what I find more appalling about this fact: that they were so intensely trying to stamp out an ancient spiritual system, or that they were willing to alter the sacred story of their own God to fit their politics.
 
instagramsci said:
Nothing wrong with that imo. I tire of its commercialism though. I'm sick of the TV ads and the obnoxious holiday spice scented fumes
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l partly agree but it is the lovely side of capitalism:lol:
 
Northern Light said:
Jesus follows the story of Osiris almost to the letter, and Osiris was born in the Spring.

The Christians put his birth celebration at this time of year to compete with the Winter Solstice celebrations of the Pagans.

I don't know what I find more appalling about this fact: that they were so intensely trying to stamp out an ancient spiritual system, or that they were willing to alter the sacred story of their own God to fit their politics.
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hi northern ,lets just talk positively in the religion forum and keep its philosophic arguments for the other forum
 
Medusa said:
hi northern ,lets just talk positively in the religion forum and keep its philosophic arguments for the other forum
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Granted, the last sentence I wrote was a little harsh, but the previous comments I made all related to the time of Jesus' birth, which is what the OP wanted to know about.
 
Northern Light said:
Granted, the last sentence I wrote was a little harsh, but the previous comments I made all related to the time of Jesus' birth, which is what the OP wanted to know about.
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l already know much about the history of religions .thats why l started it
 
JUG said:
It's said that carbon-dating rules the birth of Jesus in the summer.
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Unfortunately carbon dating is not that precise, it cannot determine the month or season. It is only accurate within a range of about 100 years.
 
Passover 1 BC is the only date that fits all the myriad of criteria given in the New Testament, and the stars were so rarely aligned on that date that it is like a big blinking neon sign in the sky testifying of the birth of the Savior.
 
JUG said:
It's said that carbon-dating rules the birth of Jesus in the summer.
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I wasn't aware carbon dating could determine the season.

It's better to look to the star alignments.
If the story of the star was describing an actual event, it might identify the year Jesus was born. The Gospel of Matthew describes the birth of Jesus as taking place when Herod was king.[69] According to Josephus, Herod died after a lunar eclipse.[70] This is usually identified as the eclipse of March 13, 4 BC.[71] The narrative implies that Jesus was born sometime between the first appearance of the star and the appearance of the Magi at Herod's court. That the king is said to have ordered the execution of boys two years of age and younger, implies that the star made its appearance within the preceding two years. Modern scholars date the birth of Jesus as 6–4 BC.[72]

The Gospel of Luke on the other hand, while it implies that the birth took place when Herod was alive, also says that Jesus was born during the census taken when Quirinius was governor of Syria,[73] which took place in AD 6, nine years after Herod died. The Luke account also says that the family of Jesus left Bethlehem shortly after the birth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_Bethlehem
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Northern Light said:
Jesus follows the story of Osiris almost to the letter, and Osiris was born in the Spring.

The Christians put his birth celebration at this time of year to compete with the Winter Solstice celebrations of the Pagans.

I don't know what I find more appalling about this fact: that they were so intensely trying to stamp out an ancient spiritual system, or that they were willing to alter the sacred story of their own God to fit their politics.
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There are a few reasons, including the solstice was already a time of celebration and vacation (as it was time to put the animals in winter shelter and start using stored food).

To put it simply... in today's context... if your God was born on a Tuesday, would you celebrate his birthday then or on a Saturday.
 
ecofarm said:
There are a few reasons, including the solstice was already a time of celebration and vacation (as it was time to put the animals in winter shelter and start using stored food).

To put it simply... in today's context... if your God was born on a Tuesday, would you celebrate his birthday then or on a Saturday.
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when were you born ?
 
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