Respecthelect
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Some say the God-of-Israel and Allah are different names of the the same God, some say they are different entities entirely. How are we to know who is correct?
The Bible says to "know them by their fruits." Muslims sure seem to enjoy killing people? They argue, the West kills more people?
There were lots of cheering Muslims after 9/11, but virtually none who publicly denounced it? Some make the case that the one "god" Muslims worship is Satan. That the propensity to violence is evidence ("fruits") of Satanic influence and Satanic worship? After all, there is only one Satan, so worshiping "one entity" (monotheism) is no guarantee of righteousness.
I often make the case America was founded on God (the God of Israel) and God's grant of free-will. No less than four references to God appear in the Declaration of Independence. Every founder was Christian, every signer of the Declaration, the Constitution and every member of the Continental Congress (First and Second). America's blessings are secured by this tie to God. This foundation built on God and God's word.
All the fruits seem very clear, until one considers the sexual corruptions? Christian countries have gone beyond Jesus' forgiveness, into an orgy of permissiveness? Muslim's use this evidence of "fruits" to make the case the West isn't Godly at all.
I've also made the case that liberalism is aligned with Satan. From the Greens and ZPG'ers, who want fewer dirty human's spoiling their pristine wilderness, to abortionists, to the socialists who steal from those who work to give to those who won't, liberal's do Satan's bidding. Of this, there is virtually no question or rational argument - liberals do Satan's work. They can deny God and deny Satan's existence, but that argument only furthers Satan's agenda.
The real question regards Muslims and the fruit of their beliefs? Are Muslim's simply plagued with a faction of Satanists, like we in the West are plagued with liberal's? Or are they worshiping a different god, or Satan himself?
This isn't an academic argument, although scholarship may be required. Billions of souls are on the line and billion's of people are weighing the choice? The Middle East is in flames and the fire is spreading. Sixteen countries are involved in violent overthrows of their governments. Entire countries hang in the balance. Christians are being exterminated. Israel is under attack. This question of who serves the one true God of Israel is becoming absolutely crucial and nobody has made a dispositive case either way, in the decade since 9/11?
Radical Islam bases much of its indictment of the West on the sexual corruptions - the gay agenda. How can we Westerner's make the "know them by their fruits" argument against Muslims or radical Muslims, when we legalize SSM? How can we argue the West are the true follower's of God, when we codify what both Muslims and Judeo-Christian's agree, is un-Godly? Yes, radical Muslim's like to kill violently, but the West doesn't appear to be on the correct path either? How are 4B Christians and Muslims to decide who is correct with SSM legalized and sanctioned into law?
The question is not whether SSM should be eliminated, one presumes unanimity in this thread against SSM. Rather, the question regards Islam? Do Muslims worship the same God or not?
The Bible says to "know them by their fruits." Muslims sure seem to enjoy killing people? They argue, the West kills more people?
There were lots of cheering Muslims after 9/11, but virtually none who publicly denounced it? Some make the case that the one "god" Muslims worship is Satan. That the propensity to violence is evidence ("fruits") of Satanic influence and Satanic worship? After all, there is only one Satan, so worshiping "one entity" (monotheism) is no guarantee of righteousness.
I often make the case America was founded on God (the God of Israel) and God's grant of free-will. No less than four references to God appear in the Declaration of Independence. Every founder was Christian, every signer of the Declaration, the Constitution and every member of the Continental Congress (First and Second). America's blessings are secured by this tie to God. This foundation built on God and God's word.
All the fruits seem very clear, until one considers the sexual corruptions? Christian countries have gone beyond Jesus' forgiveness, into an orgy of permissiveness? Muslim's use this evidence of "fruits" to make the case the West isn't Godly at all.
I've also made the case that liberalism is aligned with Satan. From the Greens and ZPG'ers, who want fewer dirty human's spoiling their pristine wilderness, to abortionists, to the socialists who steal from those who work to give to those who won't, liberal's do Satan's bidding. Of this, there is virtually no question or rational argument - liberals do Satan's work. They can deny God and deny Satan's existence, but that argument only furthers Satan's agenda.
The real question regards Muslims and the fruit of their beliefs? Are Muslim's simply plagued with a faction of Satanists, like we in the West are plagued with liberal's? Or are they worshiping a different god, or Satan himself?
This isn't an academic argument, although scholarship may be required. Billions of souls are on the line and billion's of people are weighing the choice? The Middle East is in flames and the fire is spreading. Sixteen countries are involved in violent overthrows of their governments. Entire countries hang in the balance. Christians are being exterminated. Israel is under attack. This question of who serves the one true God of Israel is becoming absolutely crucial and nobody has made a dispositive case either way, in the decade since 9/11?
Radical Islam bases much of its indictment of the West on the sexual corruptions - the gay agenda. How can we Westerner's make the "know them by their fruits" argument against Muslims or radical Muslims, when we legalize SSM? How can we argue the West are the true follower's of God, when we codify what both Muslims and Judeo-Christian's agree, is un-Godly? Yes, radical Muslim's like to kill violently, but the West doesn't appear to be on the correct path either? How are 4B Christians and Muslims to decide who is correct with SSM legalized and sanctioned into law?
The question is not whether SSM should be eliminated, one presumes unanimity in this thread against SSM. Rather, the question regards Islam? Do Muslims worship the same God or not?
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