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Military bars troops from attending Vacation Bible school honor

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exactly what you would have said if the National Guard took its troops and humvee to a photo shoot at the request of the nearest islamic mosque
 
I bet you wouldnt bother if it were jewish troops, who were banned from atending any jewish school honor during vacation.
 
Imagine NP's outrage if the National Guard had shown up at a similar event at a mosque.
 
Navy Pride said:
This is outrageous no matter what sidee of the fence your on...........PC going a muck. Military bars troops from attending Vacation Bible school honor Fox News
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Oh where would the CON ranters be without Todd Starnes????

No new policy, no new position, just some whining and muck racking.... waaaay to go!!!!

The Church could EASILY have reached out the the veteran groups and done the same thing. I'd say they were more interested in making a mess than honoring 'the troops'.
 
Big whoop...I think it is a wise thing to keep the military out of certain religious events.

Sure, it's a bit PC (and I hate PC usually).

But the military is not a Christian military...it is supposed to be just a military...for Christians, Muslims, other religions and for atheists as well. And apparently the Church in question called the military 'God's Rescue Squad'. That certainly sends a bad message to other religions if the military is seen giving lessons/talks in front of a big sign that calls them 'God's Rescue Squad'.

The U.S. Military is NOT God's Rescue Squad...it is America's Rescue Squad.
 
DA60 said:
Big whoop...I think it is a wise thing to keep the military out of certain religious events.

Sure, it's a bit PC (and I hate PC usually).

But the military is not a Christian military...it is supposed to be just a military...for Christians, Muslims, other religions and for atheists as well. And apparently the Church in question called the military 'God's Rescue Squad'. That certainly sends a bad message to other religions if the military is seen giving lessons/talks in front of a big sign that calls them 'God's Rescue Squad'.

The U.S. Military is NOT God's Rescue Squad...it is America's Rescue Squad.
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Oh no, some miltary personal is going to church. It must mean the government is endorsing a religion. Sorry, but that is moronic.
 
justabubba said:
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exactly what you would have said if the National Guard took its troops and humvee to a photo shoot at the request of the nearest islamic mosque
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Ridiculous example.......it would never happen.
 
Navy Pride said:
Ridiculous example.......it would never happen.
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Only ridiculous to you because we know YOU wouldn't support it. So your faux outrage is shown.
 
Navy Pride said:
This is outrageous no matter what sidee of the fence your on...........PC going a muck.

Military bars troops from attending Vacation Bible school honor | Fox News
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Here's the regulation per your link:

“Army participation must not selectively benefit (or appear to benefit) any person, group, or corporation (whether profit or nonprofit); religion, sect, religious or sectarian group, or quasi-religious or ideological movement.”

The policy also states that troops are to avoid any activities that might involve or appear to involve the promotion, endorsement, or sponsorship of any religious or sectarian movement.
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I get it. No big deal.

Would we still think it was bad policy if they were going to a Muslim church? Or Jewish synagogue? I think we'd be howling in the other direction.
 
I think this whole idea that an employee wearing his work uniform to church or any other place for that matter has anything to do with his employers views is not only absurd, but flat out moronic.
 
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Henrin said:
Oh no, some miltary personal is going to church. It must mean the government is endorsing a religion. Sorry, but that is moronic.
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military personnel, going to church in uniform, at their own discretion, on their own time
not a problem. their choice as individuals

but military personnel, in uniform, being directed to attend a religious function, on the government's time
no way. don't care if it is a southern baptist church function or attendance at an event at the temple of marijuana, this is not a time and place for our military to be in an official capacity. that official military presence gives the appearance of endorsing those religious - or anti-religious - views. that should not be allowed to happen
 
justabubba said:
military personnel, going to church in uniform, at their own discretion, on their own time
not a problem. their choice as individuals

but military personnel, in uniform, being directed to attend a religious function, on the government's time
no way. don't care if it is a southern baptist church function or attendance at an event at the temple of marijuana, this is not a time and place for our military to be in an official capacity. that official military presence gives the appearance of endorsing those religious - or anti-religious - views. that should not be allowed to happen
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I disagree with the first paragraph and agree with the second.
 
ecofarm said:
I disagree with the first paragraph and agree with the second.
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good to see you

what is your objection to the wearing of the uniform when the person owning the uniform chooses to attend church of his own free will
 
I think it is a wise idea to avoid having the armed forces linked with any religious group. The inevitable idea of God is on our side is always a bad one.

Just wish the logic was applied to getting rid of the padre.
 
justabubba said:
what is your objection to the wearing of the uniform when the person owning the uniform chooses to attend church of his own free will
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The uniform was authorized and issued for a specific purpose, which does not include personal business. That uniform represents the military and an individual has no right to use it for personal agenda. The military is not a "free society", it is servitude entered into voluntarily. To accept the terms and then attempt to use the uniform for ones own purpose is unethical.
 
ecofarm said:
The uniform was authorized and issued for a specific purpose, which does not include personal business. That uniform represents the military and an individual has no right to use it for personal agenda. The military is not a "free society", it is servitude entered into voluntarily. To accept the terms and then attempt to use the uniform for ones own purpose is unethical.
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i see that individual choosing to wear the military uniform as someone who is proud to have the honor to wear it
 
justabubba said:
i see that individual choosing to wear the military uniform as someone who is proud to have the honor to wear it
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It's trying to supplement ones position with authority that is not authorized. It's the employment of false authority for personal political capital.
 
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ecofarm said:
It's trying to supplement ones position with authority that is not authorized. It's the employment of false authority for personal political capital.
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or, it's genuine pride in being honored to wear the military uniform
 
justabubba said:
or, it's genuine pride in being honored to wear the military uniform
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Sure its pride; I'll give anyone the benefit of benevolent motive. But that doesn't change what it is socially. Ones inability to grasp or respect social implications does not remove those implications.
 
ecofarm said:
Sure its pride; I'll give anyone the benefit of benevolent motive. But that doesn't change what it is socially. Ones inability to grasp or respect social implications does not remove those implications.
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i must be in that second group as i do not understand your opposition
 
justabubba said:
i must be in that second group as i do not understand your opposition
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Pretending there is no allusion of military personnel support in the wearing of the uniform to a particular event is just being socially blind. Others at the event will treat such a person better because of that allusion and its value to the organization.

The uniform was not authorized nor issued for personal political purpose. Ignorance is not an excuse of social impacts.
 
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Henrin said:
I think this whole idea that an employee wearing his work uniform to church or any other place for that matter has anything to do with his employers views is not only absurd, but flat out moronic.
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Sadly under Obama we live in a PC country.
 
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