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The good news of Gods kingdom.

The real Jesus is none other than The One who was prophesied and had fulfilled all the prophecies in the OT - who is ONE with The FATHER - and in whom all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form.

1.
Colossians 2
9 For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;



2. John 10:30
I and My Father are One.


3. John 14
The Father Revealed
7 “If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also;
and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.”


4. Hebrews 1
8 But about the Son he says,“Your throne, Oh God, will last for ever and ever;
a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.




To believe in Jesus is to believe all that He says. Not some, but ALL.

You have to believe He is GOD incarnate.

1. The greek "Theotetos", just means divinity, putting in "Godhead" only Works if you already ASSUME it's trinitarian, when really Theotetos is really descriptive, it's a quality one has.

No keep Reading

10 and you have come to fullness in him, who is the head of every ruler and authority.

If we were to read verse 9 literally, we'd also have to read verse 10 literally and say that we are also part of the Godhead right?

2. IN THE SAME WAY THAT HIS APOSTLES ARE ONE WITH HIM AND ONE WITH EACH OTHER (not ontologically).

3. Yes, because Jesus is the image of the invisible God ......

4. Yes ... Jesus can also be called God. But keep Reading

8 But of the Son he says,


“Your throne, O God, is[c] forever and ever,
and the righteous scepter is the scepter of your[d] kingdom.
9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has anointed you
with the oil of gladness beyond your companions.”


Now that all Your scriptures have been shown to NOT be teaching the Trinity. perhaps you, for once, can explain why in Corinthians Jesus submits himself to God and God is the head of Christ (Not just the father, no GOD, Yahweh), and why Jesus must recieve a revelation from God, and why God GIVES Jesus authority and Jesus then submits himself. And why Jesus agreed With the Scribal interpretation of the Shema and so on and so forth, (scriptures which the Whole time you've been here you've never actually dealt With).
 
In Revelation one Jesus receives the revelation from God, meaning God gave him the revelation, something which would be impossible had Jesus actually been God.


Of real importance is that the concept represented by the word “Trinity” does exist in Scripture. The following is what God’s Word says about the Trinity:


1) There is one God (Deuteronomy 6:4; 1 Corinthians 8:4; Galatians 3:20; 1 Timothy 2:5).



2) The Trinity consists of three Persons (Genesis 1:1, 26; 3:22; 11:7; Isaiah 6:8, 48:16, 61:1; Matthew 3:16-17, 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14). In Genesis 1:1, the Hebrew plural noun "Elohim" is used. In Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7 and Isaiah 6:8, the plural pronoun for “us” is used. The word "Elohim" and the pronoun “us” are plural forms, definitely referring in the Hebrew language to more than two. While this is not an explicit argument for the Trinity, it does denote the aspect of plurality in God.

The Hebrew word for "God," "Elohim," definitely allows for the Trinity.

In Isaiah 48:16 and 61:1, the Son is speaking while making reference to the Father and the Holy Spirit. Compare Isaiah 61:1 to Luke 4:14-19 to see that it is the Son speaking.

Matthew 3:16-17 describes the event of Jesus' baptism. Seen in this passage is God the Holy Spirit descending on God the Son while God the Father proclaims His pleasure in the Son. Matthew 28:19 and 2 Corinthians 13:14 are examples of three distinct Persons in the Trinity.



3) The members of the Trinity are distinguished one from another in various passages. In the Old Testament, “LORD” is distinguished from “Lord” (Genesis 19:24; Hosea 1:4). The LORD has a Son (Psalm 2:7, 12; Proverbs 30:2-4).
The Spirit is distinguished from the “LORD” (Numbers 27:18) and from “God” (Psalm 51:10-12).
God the Son is distinguished from God the Father (Psalm 45:6-7; Hebrews 1:8-9).
In the New Testament, Jesus speaks to the Father about sending a Helper, the Holy Spirit (John 14:16-17).
This shows that Jesus did not consider Himself to be the Father or the Holy Spirit.



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Of real importance is that the concept represented by the word “Trinity” does exist in Scripture. The following is what God’s Word says about the Trinity:


1) There is one God (Deuteronomy 6:4; 1 Corinthians 8:4; Galatians 3:20; 1 Timothy 2:5).



2) The Trinity consists of three Persons (Genesis 1:1, 26; 3:22; 11:7; Isaiah 6:8, 48:16, 61:1; Matthew 3:16-17, 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14). In Genesis 1:1, the Hebrew plural noun "Elohim" is used. In Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7 and Isaiah 6:8, the plural pronoun for “us” is used. The word "Elohim" and the pronoun “us” are plural forms, definitely referring in the Hebrew language to more than two. While this is not an explicit argument for the Trinity, it does denote the aspect of plurality in God.

The Hebrew word for "God," "Elohim," definitely allows for the Trinity.

In Isaiah 48:16 and 61:1, the Son is speaking while making reference to the Father and the Holy Spirit. Compare Isaiah 61:1 to Luke 4:14-19 to see that it is the Son speaking.

Matthew 3:16-17 describes the event of Jesus' baptism. Seen in this passage is God the Holy Spirit descending on God the Son while God the Father proclaims His pleasure in the Son. Matthew 28:19 and 2 Corinthians 13:14 are examples of three distinct Persons in the Trinity.



3) The members of the Trinity are distinguished one from another in various passages. In the Old Testament, “LORD” is distinguished from “Lord” (Genesis 19:24; Hosea 1:4). The LORD has a Son (Psalm 2:7, 12; Proverbs 30:2-4).
The Spirit is distinguished from the “LORD” (Numbers 27:18) and from “God” (Psalm 51:10-12).
God the Son is distinguished from God the Father (Psalm 45:6-7; Hebrews 1:8-9).
In the New Testament, Jesus speaks to the Father about sending a Helper, the Holy Spirit (John 14:16-17).
This shows that Jesus did not consider Himself to be the Father or the Holy Spirit.

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Read more: What does the Bible teach about the Trinity?
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(from now on can you please actually quote the scriptures rather than just cite them, it makes Things a Whole lot easier for honesty to actually show what the scripture says rather than just say it says something and wait for me to actually post the text of scripture.)

It doesn't Denote plurity in God, it's a magesterial plural .... this is used else where in the NT in Reference to kings, this is VERY common in semetic Language and has nothign to do With a plurality of persons (which is why historic Judaism NEVER interperated it that way).

Mentioning God and his spirit together has nothing to do With the Trinity, anymore than mentioning Elijah and his spirit would have something to do With 2 persons in one being (Elijah) the jewish understanding is that Elijahs spirit nad Gods spirit is just their Power.

Isaiah 61:1 is NOT Jesus speaking, Jesus quotes Isaiah and applies it to himself, the same With Isaiah 48:16, it's a prophesy of the messiah, not the Son speaking.

Again all these arguments are nonsense, just because you Mention Jesus (the son=, Yahweh (the father), and the holy spirit in a sentance doesn't mean it has anything to do With the Trinity.

In the OT, LORD is actually YHWH, whereas Adoni, or other forms of Adon can mean any "lord" from Abraham to a king, to anyone, InFact Adoni NEVER refers to Yahweh and thats the Word used in Psalms 110:1 to refer to Christ.

The LORD (Adonai in the OT) is Yahweh, and Yahweh is the only true God, if Jesus is not Yahweh, then Jesus is not part of a triune, God, he can be a god in a sense, just as moses is, just as the angels are and so on, but not Yahweh.

But you're not answering the scriptures.

Such as 1 Corinthians 11:
3 But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the husband[a] is the head of his wife, and God is the head of Christ.

Or 1 Corinthians 15:
24 Then comes the end,[g] when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father, after he has destroyed every ruler and every authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For “God[h] has put all things in subjection under his feet.” But when it says, “All things are put in subjection,” it is plain that this does not include the one who put all things in subjection under him. 28 When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to the one who put all things in subjection under him, so that God may be all in all.

or the fact that Jesus had a God, and that God is IDENTICLE to Our God?

Or the fact that Jesus recieves everything from God, his revelation, his Power, he sits ad the right hand of Yahweh and so on.
 
Of real importance is that the concept represented by the word “Trinity” does exist in Scripture. The following is what God’s Word says about the Trinity:


1) There is one God (Deuteronomy 6:4; 1 Corinthians 8:4; Galatians 3:20; 1 Timothy 2:5).



2) The Trinity consists of three Persons (Genesis 1:1, 26; 3:22; 11:7; Isaiah 6:8, 48:16, 61:1; Matthew 3:16-17, 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14). In Genesis 1:1, the Hebrew plural noun "Elohim" is used. In Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7 and Isaiah 6:8, the plural pronoun for “us” is used. The word "Elohim" and the pronoun “us” are plural forms, definitely referring in the Hebrew language to more than two. While this is not an explicit argument for the Trinity, it does denote the aspect of plurality in God.

The Hebrew word for "God," "Elohim," definitely allows for the Trinity.

In Isaiah 48:16 and 61:1, the Son is speaking while making reference to the Father and the Holy Spirit. Compare Isaiah 61:1 to Luke 4:14-19 to see that it is the Son speaking.

Matthew 3:16-17 describes the event of Jesus' baptism. Seen in this passage is God the Holy Spirit descending on God the Son while God the Father proclaims His pleasure in the Son. Matthew 28:19 and 2 Corinthians 13:14 are examples of three distinct Persons in the Trinity.



3) The members of the Trinity are distinguished one from another in various passages. In the Old Testament, “LORD” is distinguished from “Lord” (Genesis 19:24; Hosea 1:4). The LORD has a Son (Psalm 2:7, 12; Proverbs 30:2-4).
The Spirit is distinguished from the “LORD” (Numbers 27:18) and from “God” (Psalm 51:10-12).
God the Son is distinguished from God the Father (Psalm 45:6-7; Hebrews 1:8-9).
In the New Testament, Jesus speaks to the Father about sending a Helper, the Holy Spirit (John 14:16-17).
This shows that Jesus did not consider Himself to be the Father or the Holy Spirit.

MORE EXPLANATIONS.....[/COLOR]

Read more: What does the Bible teach about the Trinity?
[/QUOTE]

(from now on can you please actually quote the scriptures rather than just cite them, it makes Things a Whole lot easier for honesty to actually show what the scripture says rather than just say it says something and wait for me to actually post the text of scripture.)

It doesn't Denote plurity in God, it's a magesterial plural .... this is used else where in the NT in Reference to kings, this is VERY common in semetic Language and has nothign to do With a plurality of persons (which is why historic Judaism NEVER interperated it that way).

Mentioning God and his spirit together has nothing to do With the Trinity, anymore than mentioning Elijah and his spirit would have something to do With 2 persons in one being (Elijah) the jewish understanding is that Elijahs spirit nad Gods spirit is just their Power.

Isaiah 61:1 is NOT Jesus speaking, Jesus quotes Isaiah and applies it to himself, the same With Isaiah 48:16, it's a prophesy of the messiah, not the Son speaking.

Again all these arguments are nonsense, just because you Mention Jesus (the son=, Yahweh (the father), and the holy spirit in a sentance doesn't mean it has anything to do With the Trinity.

In the OT, LORD is actually YHWH, whereas Adoni, or other forms of Adon can mean any "lord" from Abraham to a king, to anyone, InFact Adoni NEVER refers to Yahweh and thats the Word used in Psalms 110:1 to refer to Christ.

The LORD (Adonai in the OT) is Yahweh, and Yahweh is the only true God, if Jesus is not Yahweh, then Jesus is not part of a triune, God, he can be a god in a sense, just as moses is, just as the angels are and so on, but not Yahweh.

But you're not answering the scriptures.

Such as 1 Corinthians 11:
3 But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the husband[a] is the head of his wife, and God is the head of Christ.

Or 1 Corinthians 15:
24 Then comes the end,[g] when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father, after he has destroyed every ruler and every authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For “God[h] has put all things in subjection under his feet.” But when it says, “All things are put in subjection,” it is plain that this does not include the one who put all things in subjection under him. 28 When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to the one who put all things in subjection under him, so that God may be all in all.

or the fact that Jesus had a God, and that God is IDENTICLE to Our God?

Or the fact that Jesus recieves everything from God, his revelation, his Power, he sits ad the right hand of Yahweh and so on.
 
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