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Jesus Christ Did Not Believe In Tolerance And Peace, But The Punishment Of Evil Doers

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Qué? All of John was basically "added later." It the resultant composition of a number of authors' works. That's why it's littered with literary seams. Heck, John 3:16 itself is smack in the middle of an inserted text. Trying to cull the Story of the Adulteress, while simultaneously ignoring and accepting the rest of John as "genuine," would be the most baseless, ultimate cherry-picking example anyone could ever possibly come up with.

So, you claim John 3:16 is a late addition. What else?
 
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Millions of Hindus would disagree with you.
That would be their prerogative.
 
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Jesus Christ Did Not Believe In Tolerance And Peace, But The Punishment Of Evil Doers And Evil People | Walid ShoebatWalid Shoebat

Jesus Christ did not believe in tolerance and peace, but the punishment of evil doers and evil people.
I never accepted the modern perception of Christianity, as a sort of peace loving religion. Christ Himself said:

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. –Matthew 10:34

Christ is “The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle.” (Psalm 24:8)

The Divine Law strikes, and the heretics scatter, like wolves without a head. Now is the hour of darkness, now is the hour of the savages and their leader the wicked one, “given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them” (Revelation 13:7)

But with the hour of persecution, comes the time for the shepherds who, worshiping the Eternal Shepherd, strikes the lion and the bear to rescue one sheep, and then slays the mighty hunter who defies “the armies of the living God” (1 Samuel 17:26).

The Two Swords, the Spiritual and the Temporal, lie in the hands of the Church, and yet they remaine unused, rusted and ignored by indifferent hearts. These are the Swords of the Church Militant, who rises, confronts, and destroys the bastions of darkness that advance against the Kingdom of Heaven.

When the Holy Sepulchre and holy places of pilgrimage were tainted and desecrated by the Muslim heathen, tell me, did Christians stay still, and say amongst themselves, “We must accept that Christian lands are now belong under the law of Islam. We as Christians should condemn what they are doing, but we must not wish harm on anyone or be militant, because we are under the New Covenant, and Christ never declared war on anyone”?

Never.


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In an age where Christianity is under siege and many of it's principles ignored, now should be the time to fight back.

Taken IN CONTEXT, it's obvious that Matthew 10:34 is about the fact that Christianity will not be accepted by many and that it will become a dividing point for many.

10 And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.

2 Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother;

3 Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the publican; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus;

4 Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him.

5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.

8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

9 Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses,

10 Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat.

11 And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, enquire who in it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence.

12 And when ye come into an house, salute it.

13 And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you.

14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.

15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;

18 And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles.

19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.

20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.

22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.

24 The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord.

25 It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household?

26 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.

27 What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.

28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

29 Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father.

30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

31 Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.

32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

40 He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

41 He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.

42 And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward.
 
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Taken IN CONTEXT, it's obvious that Matthew 10:34 is about the fact that Christianity will not be accepted by many and that it will become a dividing point for many.

I agree.
 
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He gave mankind a chance to redeem itself as he showed us the 'way'. Obviously, as a group, we chose another route.
A group? I'm sorry but you lost me. I can follow the ways of Jesus by myself. I don't need a group. :shrug:
 
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So, you claim John 3:16 is a late addition. What else?
No, it's a redaction: the form of editing where multiple sources are combined and slightly altered to form one document. Unlike the Synoptics, the Gospel of John was written by multiple authors and then redacted together. There was no single "original" that had "later additions" to it. Just the numerous source materials that had been appended together to form the John that is seen today. That's why there are numerous variations of John that your original sources notes, or why in John there are the literary seams, the changes in writing styles & narrative flows, and the repetitive stories.

Take a look, for example at John 1. The whole chapter has this incredibly melodic comparative theme in it, as if it was originally a hymn. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God ... that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it," or the following in John 1:9, "The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him." The whole chapter follows this pattern, with the exception of verses 6-8 and 15. The ones about John the Baptist.

Read the whole passage out loud. It's a perfect narrative flow from 1-5. Then passages 6-8 interrupt, before it goes back to the original narrative flow. It looks like someone dropped the two passages into the hymn, plus the one in verse 15, just to make a point about John the Baptist. It's an example of interrupted narrative flow.

Another example is Jesus' speech in John's chapters 13-18. Read 13-14. It makes sense. John 13:36, Simon Peter asks where Jesus is going; John 14:15-21, Jesus preaches about keeping his commands; John 14:26, Jesus promises the Holy Spirit; and in the last verse, John 14:31, Jesus tells the disciples they are leaving. THEN Jesus launches back into the same speech, and repeats himself all over again in a slightly different order. In John 16:4, Jesus asks why none have asked where Jesus is going (Simon Peter just asked); John 15:9-16, Jesus preaches about keeping his commands; John 15:26, Jesus again promises the Holy Spirit; and in John 18:1 they finally all get up and leave. Again, it shows a narrative flow discrepancy, in addition to a literary seam.

There's more evidence of these redactions in around John 3 and John 8, the similarities between John 18-20 and Mark (same sources?), and what seems to be a not-really-an-epilogue for the whole of John 21. There's a brilliant wrap up in John 20:30-31, and then ... it goes right back into talking about a parable about fish and Jesus ordination of St. Peter (Simon Peter). It, like Mark 16:9-20, was probably stuck onto the end of a Gospel by a later author.

Redaction Criticism
 
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A group? I'm sorry but you lost me. I can follow the ways of Jesus by myself. I don't need a group. :shrug:

Myself but, "as a group" means most of us.
 
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A group? I'm sorry but you lost me. I can follow the ways of Jesus by myself. I don't need a group. :shrug:


Do you know Jesus truths? He does have real teachers on earth teaching his truths.
 
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And, some books were canonized and others were not because they didn't further what the church wanted or they gave evidence against the churches interpretations of vague passages.

I really gotta go now...

No they weren't canonized because the authors could not be verified or that the books contained information that was counter to everything else that they had already checked and verified.

if you have 10 sources that say X then you run into someone that says Y and it is the only one that says Y then you start to look at Y with some skepticism.
that is why there were books excluded IE the book of Thomas, mary and judas.

they failed the multitude of tests that were done to verify authenticity.

the reason that this was done because during that time there were a lot of Gnostic writings that were going around claiming to be people that knew Christ etc ..
this was done to verify those claims. those books and others were rejected because the authors couldn't be verified. if the authors were verified then their sources couldn't be.
lastly the message was counter to previously established cannon that was set down.
 
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No, it's a redaction: the form of editing where multiple sources are combined and slightly altered to form one document. Unlike the Synoptics, the Gospel of John was written by multiple authors and then redacted together. There was no single "original" that had "later additions" to it. Just the numerous source materials that had been appended together to form the John that is seen today. That's why there are numerous variations of John that your original sources notes, or why in John there are the literary seams, the changes in writing styles & narrative flows, and the repetitive stories.

Take a look, for example at John 1. The whole chapter has this incredibly melodic comparative theme in it, as if it was originally a hymn. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God ... that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it," or the following in John 1:9, "The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him." The whole chapter follows this pattern, with the exception of verses 6-8 and 15. The ones about John the Baptist.

Read the whole passage out loud. It's a perfect narrative flow from 1-5. Then passages 6-8 interrupt, before it goes back to the original narrative flow. It looks like someone dropped the two passages into the hymn, plus the one in verse 15, just to make a point about John the Baptist. It's an example of interrupted narrative flow.

Another example is Jesus' speech in John's chapters 13-18. Read 13-14. It makes sense. John 13:36, Simon Peter asks where Jesus is going; John 14:15-21, Jesus preaches about keeping his commands; John 14:26, Jesus promises the Holy Spirit; and in the last verse, John 14:31, Jesus tells the disciples they are leaving. THEN Jesus launches back into the same speech, and repeats himself all over again in a slightly different order. In John 16:4, Jesus asks why none have asked where Jesus is going (Simon Peter just asked); John 15:9-16, Jesus preaches about keeping his commands; John 15:26, Jesus again promises the Holy Spirit; and in John 18:1 they finally all get up and leave. Again, it shows a narrative flow discrepancy, in addition to a literary seam.

There's more evidence of these redactions in around John 3 and John 8, the similarities between John 18-20 and Mark (same sources?), and what seems to be a not-really-an-epilogue for the whole of John 21. There's a brilliant wrap up in John 20:30-31, and then ... it goes right back into talking about a parable about fish and Jesus ordination of St. Peter (Simon Peter). It, like Mark 16:9-20, was probably stuck onto the end of a Gospel by a later author.

Redaction Criticism

most of the new testament was written like that.

John had his followers that were writing things down, and probably had a few of them that wrote things down at different times. he wasn't able to write that well by after his exile.
the same with paul. people note the differences. paul was partly blind so he couldn't see or read that well. so he had someone else transcribe more than likely.

does that mean they are invalid? no it doesn't. as the context and the message stay consistent through the entire book.
 
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Do you know Jesus truths? He does have real teachers on earth teaching his truths.

the only Jesus Truths there are is written in the bible. anything beyond or outside of that is untrue and not biblical.
 
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Jesus Christ Did Not Believe In Tolerance And Peace, But The Punishment Of Evil Doers And Evil People | Walid ShoebatWalid Shoebat

Jesus Christ did not believe in tolerance and peace, but the punishment of evil doers and evil people.
I never accepted the modern perception of Christianity, as a sort of peace loving religion. Christ Himself said:

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. –Matthew 10:34

Christ is “The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle.” (Psalm 24:8)

The Divine Law strikes, and the heretics scatter, like wolves without a head. Now is the hour of darkness, now is the hour of the savages and their leader the wicked one, “given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them” (Revelation 13:7)

But with the hour of persecution, comes the time for the shepherds who, worshiping the Eternal Shepherd, strikes the lion and the bear to rescue one sheep, and then slays the mighty hunter who defies “the armies of the living God” (1 Samuel 17:26).

The Two Swords, the Spiritual and the Temporal, lie in the hands of the Church, and yet they remaine unused, rusted and ignored by indifferent hearts. These are the Swords of the Church Militant, who rises, confronts, and destroys the bastions of darkness that advance against the Kingdom of Heaven.

When the Holy Sepulchre and holy places of pilgrimage were tainted and desecrated by the Muslim heathen, tell me, did Christians stay still, and say amongst themselves, “We must accept that Christian lands are now belong under the law of Islam. We as Christians should condemn what they are doing, but we must not wish harm on anyone or be militant, because we are under the New Covenant, and Christ never declared war on anyone”?

Never.


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In an age where Christianity is under siege and many of it's principles ignored, now should be the time to fight back.

"The devil can quote scripture for his own purposes"-Sir William Shakespeare.
 
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the only Jesus Truths there are is written in the bible. anything beyond or outside of that is untrue and not biblical.


Many things in Gods written word cannot be understood without Jesus real teachers.
 
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Jesus Christ Did Not Believe In Tolerance And Peace, But The Punishment Of Evil Doers And Evil People | Walid ShoebatWalid Shoebat

Jesus Christ did not believe in tolerance and peace, but the punishment of evil doers and evil people.
I never accepted the modern perception of Christianity, as a sort of peace loving religion. Christ Himself said:

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. –Matthew 10:34

Christ is “The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle.” (Psalm 24:8)

The Divine Law strikes, and the heretics scatter, like wolves without a head. Now is the hour of darkness, now is the hour of the savages and their leader the wicked one, “given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them” (Revelation 13:7)

But with the hour of persecution, comes the time for the shepherds who, worshiping the Eternal Shepherd, strikes the lion and the bear to rescue one sheep, and then slays the mighty hunter who defies “the armies of the living God” (1 Samuel 17:26).

The Two Swords, the Spiritual and the Temporal, lie in the hands of the Church, and yet they remaine unused, rusted and ignored by indifferent hearts. These are the Swords of the Church Militant, who rises, confronts, and destroys the bastions of darkness that advance against the Kingdom of Heaven.

When the Holy Sepulchre and holy places of pilgrimage were tainted and desecrated by the Muslim heathen, tell me, did Christians stay still, and say amongst themselves, “We must accept that Christian lands are now belong under the law of Islam. We as Christians should condemn what they are doing, but we must not wish harm on anyone or be militant, because we are under the New Covenant, and Christ never declared war on anyone”?

Never.


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In an age where Christianity is under siege and many of it's principles ignored, now should be the time to fight back.

er didn't the crusades also involve atrocity's and murder on the part of the crusaders even when they weren't simply sacking constant and opal or sending children? seems like militant religion of any kind can be evil crusade jihad what's the difference?

and Jesus did say to bless those who curse you and to turn the other cheek maybe he said to fight as well to but at best he contradicts himself so that's tricky
 
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Jesus Christ Did Not Believe In Tolerance And Peace, But The Punishment Of Evil Doers And Evil People | Walid ShoebatWalid Shoebat

Jesus Christ did not believe in tolerance and peace, but the punishment of evil doers and evil people.
I never accepted the modern perception of Christianity, as a sort of peace loving religion. Christ Himself said:

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. –Matthew 10:34

Christ is “The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle.” (Psalm 24:8)

The Divine Law strikes, and the heretics scatter, like wolves without a head. Now is the hour of darkness, now is the hour of the savages and their leader the wicked one, “given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them” (Revelation 13:7)

But with the hour of persecution, comes the time for the shepherds who, worshiping the Eternal Shepherd, strikes the lion and the bear to rescue one sheep, and then slays the mighty hunter who defies “the armies of the living God” (1 Samuel 17:26).

The Two Swords, the Spiritual and the Temporal, lie in the hands of the Church, and yet they remaine unused, rusted and ignored by indifferent hearts. These are the Swords of the Church Militant, who rises, confronts, and destroys the bastions of darkness that advance against the Kingdom of Heaven.

When the Holy Sepulchre and holy places of pilgrimage were tainted and desecrated by the Muslim heathen, tell me, did Christians stay still, and say amongst themselves, “We must accept that Christian lands are now belong under the law of Islam. We as Christians should condemn what they are doing, but we must not wish harm on anyone or be militant, because we are under the New Covenant, and Christ never declared war on anyone”?

Never.


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In an age where Christianity is under siege and many of it's principles ignored, now should be the time to fight back.

could we get a list of all the things you want Christians to get violent over?
 
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If only there were a central authority and a magesterium so that we could avoid all these conflicting interpretations.
 
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Jesus Christ Did Not Believe In Tolerance And Peace, But The Punishment Of Evil Doers And Evil People | Walid ShoebatWalid Shoebat

Jesus Christ did not believe in tolerance and peace, but the punishment of evil doers and evil people.
I never accepted the modern perception of Christianity, as a sort of peace loving religion. Christ Himself said:

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. –Matthew 10:34

Christ is “The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle.” (Psalm 24:8)

The Divine Law strikes, and the heretics scatter, like wolves without a head. Now is the hour of darkness, now is the hour of the savages and their leader the wicked one, “given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them” (Revelation 13:7)

But with the hour of persecution, comes the time for the shepherds who, worshiping the Eternal Shepherd, strikes the lion and the bear to rescue one sheep, and then slays the mighty hunter who defies “the armies of the living God” (1 Samuel 17:26).

The Two Swords, the Spiritual and the Temporal, lie in the hands of the Church, and yet they remaine unused, rusted and ignored by indifferent hearts. These are the Swords of the Church Militant, who rises, confronts, and destroys the bastions of darkness that advance against the Kingdom of Heaven.

When the Holy Sepulchre and holy places of pilgrimage were tainted and desecrated by the Muslim heathen, tell me, did Christians stay still, and say amongst themselves, “We must accept that Christian lands are now belong under the law of Islam. We as Christians should condemn what they are doing, but we must not wish harm on anyone or be militant, because we are under the New Covenant, and Christ never declared war on anyone”?

Never.


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In an age where Christianity is under siege and many of it's principles ignored, now should be the time to fight back.


I understand what you mean, and I agree with you.


There is a big difference though between being a violent aggressor (depending on the situation) and,
defending the faith.


Jesus Christ had taught tolerance with patience, especially when it comes with non-believers. We can co-exist with them, but never accept their ways. There is danger that we may get influenced by them, the same way that the Israelites were influenced by idolaters, and we know of the wrath of God that fell upon them.

True, we have to spread the Word, but we need not enforce it.



Matthew 10
11 Whatever town or village you enter, search there for some worthy person and stay at their house until you leave. 12 As you enter the home, give it your greeting. 13 If the home is deserving, let your peace rest on it; if it is not, let your peace return to you. 14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet. 15 Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.


The punishment will come from God.



However, we are not taught to be APPEASERS.....nor to be DIPLOMATS,

who'll compromise the Words of God in any way,


just so to appease, or to preserve peace, or find favor in other peoples' eyes.

We are forbidden to change the message of God in any way. Thus, we have to shun RELATIVISM.
Some Christians will fall to it - and that's been foreseen. Thus not everyone who calls Christ, Lord, will be recognized by God. We've been warned. We have to stay firmly grounded on The ROCK - which is the truth.



Contrary to what others believe....we are not forbidden to defend ourselves (along with those whom we try to protect). We can lay siege if it will be for the good (God knows our motives).

Thus it is important for us (especially leaders) to pray for guidance, before making a very important decision.....the same way that Jesus prayed to His Father.
 
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My point, is that only God knows for sure how He see's things. As you pointed out in the previous post, there are numerous differences and times across history from one writing of the Bible to the next.

Each person will believe as they wish.

I choose to believe that Jesus taught peace, love, forgiveness and tolerance. Others choose to believe that he's vengeful, bent on retribution, condemnation and will bring the wrath of a vengeful unforgiving God. There are even others that choose to believe that there's nothing at all to believe, regardless.


But it's not up to us to choose! The Scriptures was given for us to know.

"Each person will believe as they wish," is relativism.
That means anyone can have his interpretation of what "truth" he wants it to be. Thus we have some who believe killing babies, or homosexual lifestyle is okay.


Those who use the Scriptures to corrupt others will face more accountability that they'd led others astray.
 
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But it's not up to us to choose! The Scriptures was given for us to know.

"Each person will believe as they wish," is relativism.
That means anyone can have his interpretation of what "truth" he wants it to be. Thus we have some who believe killing babies, or homosexual lifestyle is okay.


Those who use the Scriptures to corrupt others will face more accountability that they'd led others astray.

So, you live your life by every word in the Bible? If so, that's impressive faith and dedication.
 
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But it's not up to us to choose! The Scriptures was given for us to know.

"Each person will believe as they wish," is relativism.
That means anyone can have his interpretation of what "truth" he wants it to be. Thus we have some who believe killing babies, or homosexual lifestyle is okay.


Those who use the Scriptures to corrupt others will face more accountability that they'd led others astray.

um yes it is up to you to choose what you believe as theirs no god hanging around to tell you what it likes


maybe theirs a magic sky daddy and maybe its did and wants certain things but in its personal and possibly total absence of gods that we find are selves in choice is what it comes down to in the case of what you believe


your relatively evil to tolerating homosexuality or infanticide or abortion even can be relatively good

your just using your faith to justify what you believe is right no need to reason or worry about how other people see things and feel what you want is right for every one cause it just is
 
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um yes it is up to you to choose what you believe as theirs no god hanging around to tell you what it likes


maybe theirs a magic sky daddy and maybe its did and wants certain things but in its personal and possibly total absence of gods that we find are selves in choice is what it comes down to in the case of what you believe


your relatively evil to tolerating homosexuality or infanticide or abortion even can be relatively good

your just using your faith to justify what you believe is right no need to reason or worry about how other people see things and feel what you want is right for every one cause it just is


Are we talking about faith or what?


Topic Title: JESUS CHRIST DID NOT BELIEVE IN TOLERANCE AND PEACE, BUT THE PUNISHMENT OF EVILDOERS.
:doh
 
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Are we talking about faith or what?


Topic Title: JESUS CHRIST DID NOT BELIEVE IN TOLERANCE AND PEACE, BUT THE PUNISHMENT OF EVILDOERS.
:doh

we are its nature and how your using it
 
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Jesus Christ Did Not Believe In Tolerance And Peace, But The Punishment Of Evil Doers And Evil People | Walid ShoebatWalid Shoebat

Jesus Christ did not believe in tolerance and peace, but the punishment of evil doers and evil people.
I never accepted the modern perception of Christianity, as a sort of peace loving religion. Christ Himself said:

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. –Matthew 10:34

Christ is “The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle.” (Psalm 24:8)

The Divine Law strikes, and the heretics scatter, like wolves without a head. Now is the hour of darkness, now is the hour of the savages and their leader the wicked one, “given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them” (Revelation 13:7)

But with the hour of persecution, comes the time for the shepherds who, worshiping the Eternal Shepherd, strikes the lion and the bear to rescue one sheep, and then slays the mighty hunter who defies “the armies of the living God” (1 Samuel 17:26).

The Two Swords, the Spiritual and the Temporal, lie in the hands of the Church, and yet they remaine unused, rusted and ignored by indifferent hearts. These are the Swords of the Church Militant, who rises, confronts, and destroys the bastions of darkness that advance against the Kingdom of Heaven.

When the Holy Sepulchre and holy places of pilgrimage were tainted and desecrated by the Muslim heathen, tell me, did Christians stay still, and say amongst themselves, “We must accept that Christian lands are now belong under the law of Islam. We as Christians should condemn what they are doing, but we must not wish harm on anyone or be militant, because we are under the New Covenant, and Christ never declared war on anyone”?

Never.


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In an age where Christianity is under siege and many of it's principles ignored, now should be the time to fight back.

He really didn't like those Pharisees did he? Matthew 23.

I see American conservative evangelicals/fundamentalists as the neo-Pharisees.
 
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He really didn't like those Pharisees did he? Matthew 23.

I see American conservative evangelicals/fundamentalists as the neo-Pharisees.

You could as easily call atheistic politically correct liberals modern day pharisees as well. It isn't a group, it's the individual who is a pharisee.
 
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You could as easily call atheistic politically correct liberals modern day pharisees as well. It isn't a group, it's the individual who is a pharisee.

No, not if you read Matthew 23.
 
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