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Blood Moon and Wind

RGacky3 said:
About what specifically?
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Stop being dishonest, no wrong word, not-honest is better. We have exchanged a lot of posts and we both know what it's about.

Which bits of the Bible are allegorical and which bits are factual? and why?

Specifically do you believe in the resurrection? Since you consider the flood to be allegorical if you do think that Jesus died and got better in the real physical world why is that?

It's a very plain question your continued evasion in the hope of being the last to say something and thus some how winning is very poor. It makes you look increasingly like a corrupt politician who is unwilling to answer any question.
 
Tim the plumber said:

Stop being dishonest, no wrong word, not-honest is better. We have exchanged a lot of posts and we both know what it's about.

Which bits of the Bible are allegorical and which bits are factual? and why?
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There are 66 books in the bible, what do you want me to og to everyone? InFact even inside books some Things are allegorical some Things are not.

The Synoptic Gospels are mostly historical, John is partially historical partially theological narratizing, Acts is mostly historical, The epistles are ... well ... letters, so yes someone historically wrote them to different Churches, Revelation is an apocalypse meaning a prophetic writing in Jewish apocalyptic styel.

Genesis has some history, some allegory, and some theologically narratized history (history re-told allegorically to amek a theological point), it also has some Source material that are oral traditions of a historical time period that are allegorized and meshed together to created a narrative ...

1 and 2 Kings is mostly history, 1 and 2 Corinthians is more ideologically narratized history, Pslams are asongs, Proverbs are Proberbs, Job is a series of ideoligcal poetry put into an allegorical story .... I mean how much of this do you want me to do?

Why?

Because I've studied the bible very carefully, studied history, studied biblical criticism, and literary criticism, studied how ancient texts were written and so on.

1. Specifically do you believe in the resurrection? 2. Since you consider the flood to be allegorical 3. if you do think that Jesus died and got better in the real physical world why is that?

It's a very plain question your continued evasion in the hope of being the last to say something and thus some how winning is very poor. It makes you look increasingly like a corrupt politician who is unwilling to answer any question.
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1. I believe in the ressurection.
2. I think the flood is more likely to be allegorical, although the story is probably based on a historical flood.
3. Because God ressurected him.

I'm not unwilling to answer a question, it's just a stupid question, you're asking me to make one post about a subject that fills Libraries. i.e. what part of the bible is allegory and what parts are historical ... you might as well ask me what parts of American Law I agree With and what parts I don't.
 
OK, so you believe that there was never a world flood.

But you believe that Jesus got better after dying because it says so in the same book which says that there was a world flood which never happened.

You can see why those of us who don't believe also don't understand why people do believe.
 
Tim the plumber said:
OK, so you believe that there was never a world flood.

But you believe that Jesus got better after dying because it says so in the same book which says that there was a world flood which never happened.

You can see why those of us who don't believe also don't understand why people do believe.
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it's not the same book ....

the ressurection is in a couple books in the New Testament (most of them).

THe Flood is in Genesis, and was not written to be taken as literal history.

And I don't just believe in the ressurection because the bible tells me so ...
 
RGacky3 said:
it's not the same book ....

the ressurection is in a couple books in the New Testament (most of them).

THe Flood is in Genesis, and was not written to be taken as literal history.

And I don't just believe in the ressurection because the bible tells me so ...
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So what extra evidence beyond the collection of books which you agree contain large amounts of allegory/fiction makes the resurrection so strong?

Consider that the religion of Moses/Abraham which you say is allegorical spread and lasted over a long time against the odds.
 
Tim the plumber said:

So what extra evidence beyond the collection of books which you agree contain large amounts of allegory/fiction makes the resurrection so strong?

Consider that the religion of Moses/Abraham which you say is allegorical spread and lasted over a long time against the odds.
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First of all the gospels, acts, and the epistles being part of the Collection of books in the bible doesn't change how you study them historically ....

The religion of Moses/Abraham is both historically based, and allegorically based, as is EVERY religion, Christianity has the many parables of Jesus, which are a type of allegory, they are fundemental to the religion of Christianity.

The evidence is the historical information we find the the gospels, which are made up of multiple independant Sources, as well as confirmation outside.

Jesus was crucified by the Roman Authorities after being tried by the Sanhedrain
He was buried by Joseph of Arimethea in a Family tomb.
The tomb was found empty by some of his women followers 2 days later
Various People, including non-believers and enemies of the Jesus movement saw Jesus ressurected.

These are historical facts, the best way to explain it is the ressurection.

I previously believe in GOd so the idea of ressurection doesn't bother my worldview, so if the ressurection is the best explination and there is no other possible explination I have to Accept the evidence.
 
Respecthelect said:
Thought it was weird that the wind would stop like that, since the wind almost never stops here. During an eclipse even weirder and during an eclipse during Passover (week) weirder still. I'll have to admit, I wouldn't be up at three in the morning, if it weren't for Hagee's warnings, so maybe it's all coincidence?

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Many coincidences happen in a lifetime. They may be meaningful to you personally, or at the level of group consensus, but that doesn't mean that they are anything unusual- just that they have meaning. We give things value.
 
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Guess what happens tonight......


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Still waiting for the blood at 3:08 Pacific time with a crescent moon on the right .
 
IMO, the "blood moon" thing does not pass the scripture smell-test. :shrug:
 
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