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    Is everyone religious?

    I may need some help framing this correctly, but the gist of my thought is that we all have beliefs, values, and morals which are based on our own religion, whether it be part of an organized religion, or ones personally assembled religion.
    Your religion may not necessarily include God, or even spirituality. I am thinking even atheists follow a religion, as they do have a set or morals and values that indicate to them what is good and what is evil.

    This is my second attempt at getting comments from others on some issues that are on my mind lately. Based on good/evil, truth, and God.


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    a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

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    Re: Is everyone religious?

    I'd say most if not all people *believe* in something. Certain morals, family, other people, fate, their own egos...

    But I wouldn't call that religion.
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    Re: Is everyone religious?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cable View Post
    I may need some help framing this correctly, but the gist of my thought is that we all have beliefs, values, and morals which are based on our own religion, whether it be part of an organized religion, or ones personally assembled religion.
    Your religion may not necessarily include God, or even spirituality. I am thinking even atheists follow a religion, as they do have a set or morals and values that indicate to them what is good and what is evil.

    This is my second attempt at getting comments from others on some issues that are on my mind lately. Based on good/evil, truth, and God.


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    a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
    I think you are trying to cast way to broad a net here. Morals and values are not a religion, nor does your definition apply to everyone (there are other definitions for religion that come up with a quick google that are more specific it almost seems as if you cherry picked that one).

    The cause and nature of the universe? I do not know for sure, I have no beliefs on the matter. The purpose of the universe? I do not think there has to be or is a purpose - but again I do not know. that is not a belief.
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    Re: Is everyone religious?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cable View Post
    I may need some help framing this correctly, but the gist of my thought is that we all have beliefs, values, and morals which are based on our own religion, whether it be part of an organized religion, or ones personally assembled religion.
    Your religion may not necessarily include God, or even spirituality. I am thinking even atheists follow a religion, as they do have a set or morals and values that indicate to them what is good and what is evil.

    This is my second attempt at getting comments from others on some issues that are on my mind lately. Based on good/evil, truth, and God.


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    a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
    I thought your other thread lead to some good discussion. I am guessing the discussion was not quite along the lines you were aiming for.

    Just taking a guess about what you are looking for - is this getting close? : What guides your moral compass?
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    Re: Is everyone religious?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cable View Post
    I may need some help framing this correctly, but the gist of my thought is that we all have beliefs, values, and morals which are based on our own religion, whether it be part of an organized religion, or ones personally assembled religion.
    Your religion may not necessarily include God, or even spirituality. I am thinking even atheists follow a religion, as they do have a set or morals and values that indicate to them what is good and what is evil.

    This is my second attempt at getting comments from others on some issues that are on my mind lately. Based on good/evil, truth, and God.


    Definition:

    a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
    I draw the line when it comes to 'defining anyone's belief in life as 'a religion'' - they're just beliefs, they're just values (etc) when this is the case.

    Religion is something more complex and not everyone has one.
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    Re: Is everyone religious?

    There is a saying somewhere that goes: "A religious person is afraid of going to hell, a spiritual person has been there and is afraid to go back."

    I've said before that I believe to be a religion it must meet three criteria:

    1.Ritual (A formalized set standards of symbolic gestures representing the unseen)
    2.Ethics (a moral framework describing how we conduct ourselves and interact with others)
    3.Ontology (the makeup or Being of God)

    A spiritual person essentially holds and follows a basic concept of the latter two while shunning the first.

    This doesn't mean that the spiritual can't follow their own prescribed set of rituals done on their own in their own way which provide them meaning, it is simply that it isn't a prescribed, standardization (regardless of the loose or strict interpretations of what they represent) of acts which must be followed.
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    Re: Is everyone religious?

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    I think you are trying to cast way to broad a net here. Morals and values are not a religion, nor does your definition apply to everyone (there are other definitions for religion that come up with a quick google that are more specific it almost seems as if you cherry picked that one).

    The cause and nature of the universe? I do not know for sure, I have no beliefs on the matter. The purpose of the universe? I do not think there has to be or is a purpose - but again I do not know. that is not a belief.
    I did cherry pick this definition, mainly because I am kind of working through or studying those who claim they are atheist yet have a pretty standard set of morals and values. These aren't religion, but I think they come from it, according to the definition I posted, roughly.

    You could replace self with universe. It is probably one and the same on the grand scale. That old question: Why are WE here?

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    Re: Is everyone religious?

    Quote Originally Posted by rjay View Post
    I thought your other thread lead to some good discussion. I am guessing the discussion was not quite along the lines you were aiming for.

    Just taking a guess about what you are looking for - is this getting close? : What guides your moral compass?
    You hit it pretty good RJay. The other thread worked out pretty well, and I learned some things. I hope others did too.
    I find that a good discussion, even when someone plays devils advocate, helps me solidify and refine my own thoughts.

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    Re: Is everyone religious?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I draw the line when it comes to 'defining anyone's belief in life as 'a religion'' - they're just beliefs, they're just values (etc) when this is the case.

    Religion is something more complex and not everyone has one.

    I think we are complex. Too complex not to have a religion of sorts. We tend traditionally to think of religion as involving God. But so many live their lives these days without God. I think religion is intrinsic to our nature. Maybe I am using the wrong word, but it's the best I've found to date.

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    Re: Is everyone religious?

    The defining characteristic of religion is an explanation on what happens after you die, if it doesn't have that, it's not a religion.
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