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The Sermon on the Mount

Adultery

27 "You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.' 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.
 
Adultery

27 "You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.' 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.

nuts im going to hell apparently ...well I was going apparently for a lot of reasons any way but still nuts
 
nuts im going to hell apparently ...well I was going apparently for a lot of reasons any way but still nuts

If you don't believe....then you shouldn't be concerned where you're going.

But if you do believe......
 
Day 2

Salt and Light
13 "You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled by men. 14 "You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden. 15 Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. 16 In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven.


I found this simplified explanation about being the salt and the light.


You and I, as Christians, are called the salt of the earth because our lives enhance and give meaning to this existence we call life. Before salvation, we were like grains of sand, too numerous to count. But after receiving Christ, we were transformed - no longer like minuscule debris of rock having little or no difference from another lost piece of sand, to something distinctive in taste, texture, and aroma.

It may be an odd analogy, but Jesus compared believers to salt for a reason. Salt is a dietary mineral, used for flavoring and preservation - needed by all known living creatures. If abused, it can be harmful. However, it is also detrimental to have no salt intake because it regulates the water content in our bodies. Jesus used salt to describe how Christians are needed to bring balance and hope to an otherwise dying world.

The question He asked however is, "What good is salt if it has lost its flavor?" In other words, if a Christian has lost his or her gusto and fervor, then what's the difference between the old grain of sand they once were and the so-called salt they are now? The answer is: very little.


Salt of the Earth - Daily Devotion | CBN.com



In the analogy of light to the world, the good works of Christ’s followers are to shine for all to see. The following verses in Matthew 5 highlight this truth: “You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden; nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven” (Matthew 5:14-16, NASB). The idea here is similar—the presence of light in darkness is something which is unmistakable. The presence of Christians in the world must be like a light in the darkness, not only in the sense that the truth of God’s Word brings light to the darkened hearts of sinful man (John 1:1-10), but also in the sense that our good deeds must be evident for all to see. And indeed, our deeds will be evident if they are performed in accordance with the other principles which Jesus mentions in this passage, such as the Beatitudes in Matthew 5:3-11. Notice especially that the concern is not that Christians would stand out for their own sake, but that those who looked on might “glorify your Father who is in heaven” (v. 16, KJV).

Read more: What does it mean that believers are to be salt and light (Matthew 5:13-16)?
 
If you don't believe....then you shouldn't be concerned where you're going.

But if you do believe......

nah doesn't matter what I believe if im still a going concern im concerned

I have no reason to believe this particular story so altering my actions to fit with it doesn't make sense

and im not sure it would be the right ting to do even if its the case

though as a fun observation I could go murder some one or do anything to any one and not be any worse off going by this story
 
Oaths

33 "Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not break your oath, but keep the oaths you have made to the Lord.' 34 But I tell you, Do not swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God's throne; 35 or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. 36 And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. 37 Simply let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.
 
This pretty much encompasses this entire subdomain.


I'm not upset. This country is upset [...] I look around around and I see just stupid. We're complaining about religion, no one cares!
 

An Eye for an Eye

38 "You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' 39 But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. 41 If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. 42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
 
Love for Enemies

43 "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' 44 But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
 
Matthew 6

Giving to the Needy

1 "Be careful not to do your 'acts of righteousness' before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. 2 "So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
 
How did the people at the back of the crowd hear him?
 
How did the people at the back of the crowd hear him?

Don't know and it is possible that some were too far away to hear him. Folks in the back of large crowds in more modern times sometimes had problems hearing the speaker before there were electronic sound system too. I suspect though that it was the mystique or sense of just being there. Those close enough to hear may have passed on the words they heard to those in the back. Who knows for sure?

All we know, based on the Biblical and other historical accounts, is that he did attract an audience pretty much wherever he went, and he was also a popular guest in people's homes. From that we can conclude that he was a compelling personality, interesting, likable, and charismatic. Probably not the very serious and solemn person as Jesus is usually portrayed.

Was the Sermon on the Mount a single sermon? Or was it literary license in which the journalist/historian put together a collection of Jesus's sayings? We don't know that for sure either as the gospels are the only record we have of the sermon and Matthew was the only one to pull together the 'sermon' as a complete body of text. Some of it is unique to Matthew and some of it is also found in Mark, some of it is also found in Luke, a few portions are found in all three.

In the Beatitudes for instance, these are included in Matthew's Sermon on the Mount with the crowd hearing. In Luke, the Beatitudes that are included are spoken by Jesus with the preface in Luke 6:12: "In these days he went out to the mountain to pray; and all night he continued in prayer to God. And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples and said:. . . ." In v 20 are the first of Luke's beatitudes: "Blessed are you poor, for yours is the kingdom of God."

All this is interesting to what I describe as us 'theology nerds', however, and we can only speculate on what really happened back then. But it is for certain, to those who have experienced the living God, that something profound did happen back there. And there is power in those words yet today well over 2000 years after they were written down.
 
"The poor in spirit" is not about material things. It means spiritual poverty.


To be poor in spirit is to recognize your utter spiritual bankruptcy before God. It is understanding that you have absolutely nothing of worth to offer God. Being poor in spirit is admitting that, because of your sin, you are completely destitute spiritually and can do nothing to deliver yourself from your dire situation. Jesus is saying that, no matter your status in life, you must recognize your spiritual poverty before you can come to God in faith to receive the salvation He offers.

Read more: What does it mean to be poor in spirit?


Thus, if you recognize that.....you are humble in spirit.

Although in Luke the similar sermon Directs it straight to the poor.

Luke 6:
20 Then he looked up at his disciples and said:

“Blessed are you who are poor,
for yours is the kingdom of God.
21 “Blessed are you who are hungry now,
for you will be filled.
“Blessed are you who weep now,
for you will laugh.
 
Love the Word, but I have a real problem with the Q Hypothesis. Here's why:

Ten Reasons to Question Q

The Case Against Q: Ten Reasons

Fallacies at the Heart of Q

The Case Against Q: Fallacies at the Heart of Q

Not only that, but Q is not Occam’s Razor. The earliest authors of the Gospels did not need a previous text to go by. As John 14:26 states (Jesus speaking):

“But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.”

In addition, there’s no doubt in my mind that after the resurrection and ascension, the disciples must have spent numerous days and campfires together discussing and remembering the events written about in the Gospels.

So those would be Occam’s Razor, not Q.

Occam's Razor only applies when 2 theories are Equal in plausability and explanitory Power.
 
Occam's Razor only applies when 2 theories are Equal in plausability and explanitory Power.

You're right. "Q" is just a hyped-up theory that has more warts than an ogre.
 
Using the Occam's Razor rationale, the Q theory just doesn't hold up under any kind of logical analysis. The early Church fathers were certainly not all of one accord of what manuscripts should be included as authentic in what we now have as the "New Testament", and finally agreed on those that could be tied to a) somebody who was there and who had first hand contact with Jesus of Nazareth or b) somebody who was an immediate disciple to one who had first hand contact with Jesus of Nazareth. It just isn't reasonable that at least one of these would not have objected to extra curricular or erroneous accounts given by others and would have questioned the so-called Q theory that would not have met the basic test.

The Gospels are not intended to be chronological history and they leave a lot to the imagination for us more than 2000 years later--the writers no doubt saw no reason to elaborate on what was common knowledge at the time. They were certainly pulled together from multiple sources and edited into a coherent form to be read in the newly forming Christian congregations. And, as is the case in the Old Testament, the 'editors' almost certainly used some editorial license in how the information was put together.

Mark was the earliest of the three synoptic gospels written, the shortest, and the most succinct. Matthew and Luke almost certainly were familiar with Mark and used it as their starting point as both contain material from Mark, some of it essentially verbatim. There is nothing in Mark that is not also included in some way in Matthew and Luke. But both had more to say than Mark said. There is a lot of material in Matthew that is unique to Matthew, and material in Luke that is unique to Luke, and both very occasionally disagree with Mark and/or each other. But there is no place that Matthew and Luke agree with each other against Mark.

John, also considered one of the four Gospels, was the among the oldest documents contained in the New Testament and is so different from the others, it is usually considered by itself.

Most theologians view the Beatitudes as pericopes (per - ick' - oh - pees) or short sayings or teachings of Jesus that people could hold onto and commit to memory. The odds are good that they were not restricted to one sermon or Mark and Luke would have more likely included them in that way.

Interesting stuff if you are a 'theology nerd' and like to get into the nitty gritty of theological studies.
 
You're right. "Q" is just a hyped-up theory that has more warts than an ogre.

What's you're better thoery that explains the synoptic problem?
 
What's you're better thoery that explains the synoptic problem?

I addressed that I think in my immediately preceding post. If the Q theory was valid, there wouldn't really be a synoptic problem as there would likely be one manuscript held up as authoritative. The very fact that there are differences in the synoptic Gospels and also events recorded in John is reassuring to me that we are dealing with actual eye witnesses, actual events, actual teachings from Jesus. Otherwise we would have a single manuscript with nothing to challenge it as you see in the Book of Mormon or the Qu-ran or any other manuscripts held up as authoritative by various groups.
 
What's you're better thoery that explains the synoptic problem?

I already addressed this in my post # 39. There is no synoptic problem.

The earliest authors of the Gospels did not need a previous text to go by. As John 14:26 states (Jesus speaking):

“But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.”

In addition, there’s no doubt in my mind that before and after the resurrection and ascension, the disciples must have spent numerous days and campfires together discussing and remembering the events written about in the Gospels.

Bible skeptics don't ever want to admit the Holy Spirit even exists, much less brings to the remembrance of the disciples what Jesus said and did. That's anti-supernaturalism. I'll take Jesus' word for it rather than the skeptics.
 
Using the Occam's Razor rationale, the Q theory just doesn't hold up under any kind of logical analysis. The early Church fathers were certainly not all of one accord of what manuscripts should be included as authentic in what we now have as the "New Testament", and finally agreed on those that could be tied to a) somebody who was there and who had first hand contact with Jesus of Nazareth or b) somebody who was an immediate disciple to one who had first hand contact with Jesus of Nazareth. It just isn't reasonable that at least one of these would not have objected to extra curricular or erroneous accounts given by others and would have questioned the so-called Q theory that would not have met the basic test.

The Gospels are not intended to be chronological history and they leave a lot to the imagination for us more than 2000 years later--the writers no doubt saw no reason to elaborate on what was common knowledge at the time. They were certainly pulled together from multiple sources and edited into a coherent form to be read in the newly forming Christian congregations. And, as is the case in the Old Testament, the 'editors' almost certainly used some editorial license in how the information was put together.

Mark was the earliest of the three synoptic gospels written, the shortest, and the most succinct. Matthew and Luke almost certainly were familiar with Mark and used it as their starting point as both contain material from Mark, some of it essentially verbatim. There is nothing in Mark that is not also included in some way in Matthew and Luke. But both had more to say than Mark said. There is a lot of material in Matthew that is unique to Matthew, and material in Luke that is unique to Luke, and both very occasionally disagree with Mark and/or each other. But there is no place that Matthew and Luke agree with each other against Mark.

John, also considered one of the four Gospels, was the among the oldest documents contained in the New Testament and is so different from the others, it is usually considered by itself.

Most theologians view the Beatitudes as pericopes (per - ick' - oh - pees) or short sayings or teachings of Jesus that people could hold onto and commit to memory. The odds are good that they were not restricted to one sermon or Mark and Luke would have more likely included them in that way.

Interesting stuff if you are a 'theology nerd' and like to get into the nitty gritty of theological studies.

Correction of this post: I mistyped one detail. John is not among the 'oldest' documents included in the New Testament but one of the latest; i.e. it was written some time after the other Gospels, after the last destruction of the Temple around 70 a.d., and certainly long after Paul was writing his letters to the Churches and after the Roman persecution of Christians had begun.
 
I addressed that I think in my immediately preceding post. If the Q theory was valid, there wouldn't really be a synoptic problem as there would likely be one manuscript held up as authoritative. The very fact that there are differences in the synoptic Gospels and also events recorded in John is reassuring to me that we are dealing with actual eye witnesses, actual events, actual teachings from Jesus. Otherwise we would have a single manuscript with nothing to challenge it as you see in the Book of Mormon or the Qu-ran or any other manuscripts held up as authoritative by various groups.

The synoptic problem is why do Luke and John contain most of Mark, and then have a bunch of other material in common that look like they came from a common Source which Mark leaves out. John is a completely different gospel.

Why would one manuscript be held up as authoritative?

Whether or not Q theory is true has no bearing on whether or not we're dealing With eye witnesses, actual events, and actual teachings from Jesus, I think we are, but I also think that the scholarly consensus on Q theory is true.
 
I already addressed this in my post # 39. There is no synoptic problem.

The earliest authors of the Gospels did not need a previous text to go by. As John 14:26 states (Jesus speaking):

“But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.”

In addition, there’s no doubt in my mind that before and after the resurrection and ascension, the disciples must have spent numerous days and campfires together discussing and remembering the events written about in the Gospels.

Bible skeptics don't ever want to admit the Holy Spirit even exists, much less brings to the remembrance of the disciples what Jesus said and did. That's anti-supernaturalism. I'll take Jesus' word for it rather than the skeptics.

So the solution is just to plug Your ears and Close Your eyes .....

Do you know what the synoptic problem is?
 
The synoptic problem is why do Luke and John contain most of Mark, and then have a bunch of other material in common that look like they came from a common Source which Mark leaves out. John is a completely different gospel.

Why would one manuscript be held up as authoritative?

Whether or not Q theory is true has no bearing on whether or not we're dealing With eye witnesses, actual events, and actual teachings from Jesus, I think we are, but I also think that the scholarly consensus on Q theory is true.

But it isn't a problem. Mark was the first to put together a collection of events around Jesus' life and some sayings of Jesus. Almost certainly contained on a single scroll it was also almost certainly intended to be copied and distributed for reading in the newly forming congregations where Christians gathered to break bread, pray, and worship. And it is a near certainty that Matthew and Luke had access to Mark's manuscript and used much of the same content in their own expanded manuscripts. Matthew brings in much more of the fulfillment of prophecy that Mark didn't do so much of. Luke brought in the power and majesty and miracles and Jesus' humanity in a way that the other synoptics did not.

But as you say and as I said in a previous post, essentially all of Mark is contained in Matthew and Luke, but Matthew contains material unique to Matthew; Luke contains material unique to Luke. Both might have minor disagreements with Mark and/or with each other, but in no place does Matthew and Luke agree with each other against Mark.

You can almost see Matthew and Luke reading Mark's manuscript and muttering to themselves, this is great but he left out . . . .he didn't mention. . . .So they used Mark's bare bones manuscript as the inspiration and basis of their own.

But I think most theologians would agree that Mark was the inspiration for the two longer manuscripts but Matthew and Mark each thought it important to include other things. So all three are authoritative and when all three are read, we have a much fuller concept of what happened.

It is just like three history books of the Civil War may all contain much of he same events but each might include information that the others do not. The researcher writing on the Civil War would benefit from reading all three and would have a better idea of what happened than reading only one of the histories.
 
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But it isn't a problem. Mark was the first to put together a collection of events around Jesus' life and some sayings of Jesus. Almost certainly contained on a single scroll it was also almost certainly intended to be copied and distributed for reading in the newly forming congregations where Christians gathered to break bread, pray, and worship. And it is a near certainty that Matthew and Luke had access to Mark's manuscript and used much of the same content in their own expanded manuscripts. Matthew brings in much more of the fulfillment of prophecy that Mark didn't do so much of. Luke brought in the power and majesty and miracles and Jesus' humanity in a way that the other synoptics did not.

But as you say and as I said in a previous post, essentially all of Mark is contained in Matthew and Luke, but Matthew contains material unique to Matthew; Luke contains material unique to Mark. Both might have minor disagreements with Mark and/or with each other, but in no place does Matthew and Luke agree with each other against Mark.

You can almost see Matthew and Luke reading Mark's manuscript and muttering to themselves, this is great but he left out . . . .he didn't mention. . . .So they used Mark's bare bones manuscript as the inspiration and basis of their own.

But I think most theologians would agree that Mark was the inspiration for the two longer manuscripts.

Matthew and Luke don't agree AGAINST Mark, but they share about 25% of their gospels With each other ... and then they both have material unique to their own gospels .... So how do you explain them sharing material not in Q?
 
Matthew and Luke don't agree AGAINST Mark, but they share about 25% of their gospels With each other ... and then they both have material unique to their own gospels .... So how do you explain them sharing material not in Q?

Yes Matthew and Luke do disagree with Mark here and there; they just don't agree with each other when they disagree with Mark. Look at the resurrection passages in each of the Gospels and you will find a somewhat different account in each of what happened and who was involved on that first Easter morning. This can easily be attributed to differences of recollection of witnesses to an event. You can ask 100 people who witnessed JFK's assassination in person and/or on television, and you will likely get 100 somewhat different accounts of what they remember. But there will be no question that they all are remembering and describing the same event. Some will just remember a little different sequence; some will remember much more detail; some are just better story tellers. But put it all together and you will have a pretty good idea of what happened.
 
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