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Are Christians the Most Persecuted Religion?

X Factor said:
Has there been any indication that something like that would actually be condemned or is it more likely to be regarded as something deserved? I think we've seen.
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You actually think that those who scoff at the OP's assertion welcome and applaud Christians being slaughtered? That's bizarre. Why don't you ask them yourself instead of ascribing sinister motives to their disagreement?
 
a351 said:
You actually think that those who scoff at the OP's assertion welcome and applaud Christians being slaughtered? That's bizarre. Why don't you ask them yourself instead of ascribing sinister motives to their disagreement?
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What, exactly, has given you reason to doubt it?
 
It is pretty easy to tell the difference between posters who have read the OP article and those who have not.:peace
 
X Factor said:
What, exactly, has given you reason to doubt it?
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Better yet, what has indicated that they would support the killing and persecution of Christians? I'd also assume that most of the forum doesn't engage in necrophilia, even though I haven't asked them explicitly.
 
X Factor said:
What, exactly, has given you reason to doubt it?
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The implication of the OP is that the institution of Christianity is the recipient of spontaneous persecution. Others pointing out the historical context of the persecution that is occurring are not advocating persecution by doing so. In fact, at least one of those posters has taken great pains to explain in quite a few words that the persecution is unjust.

So, now you have had it explained to you that what you are saying is a straw man and why, and at least some people have indeed explained that no one wants Christians persecuted. No one has jumped in to say "I do!!" Are you done trying to be victimized?
 
Dezaad said:
The implication of the OP is that the institution of Christianity is the recipient of spontaneous persecution. Others pointing out the historical context of the persecution that is occurring are not advocating persecution by doing so. In fact, at least one of those posters has taken great pains to explain in quite a few words that the persecution is unjust.

So, now you have had it explained to you that what you are saying is a straw man and why, and at least some people have indeed explained that no one wants Christians persecuted. No one has jumped in to say "I do!!" Are you done trying to be victimized?
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Actually, I'm just going to unsubscribe so you all can say whatever it is you really want to.
 
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Someone should tell his Holiness the Dalai Lama that he should count his blessings that at least he is not Christian, then he would really know what persecution was..:roll:

Perhaps someone should tell the Uyghurs in Western China this as well. I mean come on. This is ridiculous.
 
Gardener said:
In some areas of the world,Christians are definitely persecuted. In other areas, they are the ones persecuting.

As with many things,it all depends upon which is the majority and which is in the minority.
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I think he is talking about throwing people in prison, beating them senseless or burning people at the stake. He is talking about that kind of stuff. I dont' think he is referring to people standing on a street corner and critizing another group of people. I don't think he is talking people starting a cable TV talk show that criticizes people with another belief.

Unless you live in Dearborn, Michigan there are probably very few examples of persecution in the United States. This would include the persecution of Christians or the persecution from Christians. Making fun of somebody or giving a persuasive speech that makes another group feel bad is not persecution.

I just wanted to make sure you are talking about the same thing. If so, please give two examples of Christians doing the persecuting in the last 100 years.
 
shlunka said:
I don't whine about being persecuted against
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You should. Being thrown in jail for your beliefs, being beaten for your beliefs or being forced to watch people killed that share your beliefs is a pretty horrific scenario. Persecution is horrific. Wait, were you talking about words that people say to you or about you?

Nevermind. :lamo Persecution? :lamo You are a silly boy. That's not religious persecution. That's called human beings being obnoxious. Human beings are always obnoxious. I suppose I have been persecuted for my preference of mustard at least once in my life. :lamo
 
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Christians in other parts of the world would experience "persecution" in America as a vacation. I wonder what Peter, who was crucified upside down, would say about Christians whining because someone offended their sensibilities.. as we speak, Christians are dying in other countries for their Faith. In America, people are daydreaming about the lunch they're going to eat and hoping the pastor rushes through the closing prayer. They have the nerve to stiff the server and leave a tract. My, the arrogance of it all.. so to answer the OP: no, Christians in this particular geographical location are not being persecuted. They are getting their feelings hurt and labeling that as persecution. And That is extremely disrespectful to those who are being Persecuted.
 
Alyssa said:
Christians in other parts of the world would experience "persecution" in America as a vacation. I wonder what Peter, who was crucified upside down, would say about Christians whining because someone offended their sensibilities.. as we speak, Christians are dying in other countries for their Faith. In America, people are daydreaming about the lunch they're going to eat and hoping the pastor rushes through the closing prayer. They have the nerve to stiff the server and leave a tract. My, the arrogance of it all.. so to answer the OP: no, Christians in this particular geographical location are not being persecuted. They are getting their feelings hurt and labeling that as persecution. And That is extremely disrespectful to those who are being Persecuted.
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The OP explicitly excludes the USA as its focus. Please read before posting. And the widely reported episode of stiffing the server and leaving a tract was shown to be a hoax.:peace
 
The OP did not exclude America.. the articles posted supported my statement. lol As far as the hoax is concerned.. nice try. Maybe they were too poor to leave a tip after being extorted by their church, who knows? But the phenomenon is widely acknowledged in many circles.
 
Alyssa said:
The OP did not exclude America.. the articles posted supported my statement. lol As far as the hoax is concerned.. nice try. Maybe they were too poor to leave a tip after being extorted by their church, who knows? But the phenomenon is widely acknowledged in many circles.
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From the OP (which I posted, btw):

". . . The ordinary American, when you talk about religious persecution, they think it’s about whether you can pray before a football game. The global situation is something most folks never thought about before.

It’s the holidays, and some American Christians see pressure on religion here in the United States. Do we have a “war on Christianity” here?
What I find most frustrating about the whole thing is, to the extent that there is a war on religion in America, it’s a metaphorical war — in court, pop culture, on front pages. There is a lot of stuff religious believers find worrying and threatening, but no one is getting shot for their faith. What frustrates me is, there are really people being shot for their faith. In the States, a threat to your religious freedom means you might get sued. In the rest of the world, you might get shot.
. . . I’m not trying to say I don’t think those issues are important. It is worth asking: Is a society that starts nibbling away at the religious freedom of institutions going to start limiting the religious freedom of people? That’s fair. But there are millions of people who do face threats to life and limb."

As for the hoax, you'll have to find a real case before you can make that claim.:peace
 
Jack Hays said:
From the OP (which I posted, btw):

". . . The ordinary American, when you talk about religious persecution, they think it’s about whether you can pray before a football game. The global situation is something most folks never thought about before.

It’s the holidays, and some American Christians see pressure on religion here in the United States. Do we have a “war on Christianity” here?
What I find most frustrating about the whole thing is, to the extent that there is a war on religion in America, it’s a metaphorical war — in court, pop culture, on front pages. There is a lot of stuff religious believers find worrying and threatening, but no one is getting shot for their faith. What frustrates me is, there are really people being shot for their faith. In the States, a threat to your religious freedom means you might get sued. In the rest of the world, you might get shot.
. . . I’m not trying to say I don’t think those issues are important. It is worth asking: Is a society that starts nibbling away at the religious freedom of institutions going to start limiting the religious freedom of people? That’s fair. But there are millions of people who do face threats to life and limb."

As for the hoax, you'll have to find a real case before you can make that claim.:peace
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Thanks for making my case for me. Peace out, dude.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Someone should tell his Holiness the Dalai Lama that he should count his blessings that at least he is not Christian, then he would really know what persecution was..:roll:

Perhaps someone should tell the Uyghurs in Western China this as well. I mean come on. This is ridiculous.
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To be fair, the Chinese are equal opportunity persecutors...

Honestly, I think people should have to read this article before they start in on their persecution because they can't pray at a football game, or because somebody says "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas." They should see what real persecution is, and there are parts of the world where Christians are persecuted.
 
They may well be. There's no hard data though.

I wouldn't be surprised, they have the most people so there's more people to persecute. It's a sad state of affairs for those who are, obviously.
 
rocket88 said:
Honestly, I think people should have to read this article before they start in on their persecution because they can't pray at a football game, or because somebody says "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas." They should see what real persecution is
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It's the thin end of the wedge.
 
Jack Hays said:
Apparently reading comprehension is not your strong suit.:peace
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Speak for yourself. The OP clearly demonstrated that what American Christians experience as persecution would be a day at the beach for other Christians around the world. Boofrickityhoo, someone can't say Merry Christmas at a department store. Whinerific. I bet God gets tired of hearing you people squall about trite inconveniences now considered persecution. No wonder those who call the prayer line tend to get a busy signal.

:cool:
 
Alyssa said:
Speak for yourself. The OP clearly demonstrated that what American Christians experience as persecution would be a day at the beach for other Christians around the world. Boofrickityhoo, someone can't say Merry Christmas at a department store. Whinerific. I bet God gets tired of hearing you people squall about trite inconveniences now considered persecution. No wonder those who call the prayer line tend to get a busy signal.

:cool:
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That is the point of the OP: that no one in the US experiences persecution to the degree it is experienced abroad. You are making the OP author's point. As for me, I'm agnostic but I thought this would be an interesting discussion.:peace
 
Jack Hays said:
That is the point of the OP: that no one in the US experiences persecution to the degree it is experienced abroad. You are making the OP author's point. As for me, I'm agnostic but I thought this would be an interesting discussion.:peace
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:lamo ok, dude. You have a nice day.
 
radical islamists ,jews and christians have been killing each other .the problem is radicals ,not religions.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Bahahahahahahahahhahahahahahah.... Christians.... The most persecuted religion... Holy ****ing ****. Open a history book and just take a look around. As if you could ever even begin to compete with the jews or any other religion really. Unbelievably egocentric.
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Yeah, the Romans and Soviets never had the blood of Christians on their hands. You are utterly ignorant of the history of Christianity.

Persecution of Christians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
And more:

http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/Shortt_Christianophobia.pdf

Rupert Shortt said:
A far less widely grasped fact is that Christians are targeted more than any other body of believers. In my book Christianophobia: A Faith Under Attack (Rider, 2012), I quote figures from the Pew Forum and the World Evangelical Alliance estimating that 200 million Christians (10 per cent of the global total) are socially disadvantaged, harassed or actively oppressed for their beliefs.
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So please, let's not act as if Christians have gotten preferential treatment throughout their history.
 
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