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If you could prove God, would you?

RGacky3 said:
Do you know what Arabic Christians and Arabic Jews Call God? ... They Call him Allah ...!!!
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Does that mean the rest of the Christians in the world who don't are spiritual morons? Get a new dog. That one won't hunt.
 
Cyrylek said:
In Islam, Jesus is a prophet and the Messiah - that's a pretty high level of "approval".
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If they really value Jesus as a prophet, then why didn't they believe him when he said he is the only way to the father?

Cyrylek said:
As for being God - of course not; Islam is hewing closer to original Judaism in its strict monotheism, and views the talk about Trinity and the literal "Son of God" as pagan contamination.
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And they would be wrong about that.
 
Cyrylek said:
Where do you get all this nonsense from, really?! The crescent moon was not any kind of Islamic emblem until the Ottomans conquered Constantinople and appropriated its symbol - which, indeed, is associated with a goddess of moon, Diana. That happened in 1453.

Islam is a monotheistic Abrahamic religion - about as un-pagan as anyone can imagine.
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Tsk tsk... The reality is that the pagan 'moon god' origins of Allah go way further back than that.

ALLAH, the Moon God
 
Logicman said:
Does that mean the rest of the Christians in the world who don't are spiritual morons? Get a new dog. That one won't hunt.
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....? What are you talking about.

Arab Christians and Jews call god Allah BECAUSE THAT IS THE ARABIC WORD FOR GOD !!!!

The hebrew bible calls God El .... Eloheim ... Did you know El was an ancient Cannanite God? Does that mean that The Hebrew God was actually an ancient Cannanite God? NO, you're committing the fallacy of equivocation.

The conspiracy theory you're saying about the Muslim Allah would be laughed out of ANY scholarly circle, Christian, Islamic or secular .... it's as moronic as those who claim Jesus was actually made up as a Pagan godman figure .... it's total nonsense, and you know it.

Face it ... you posted that article origionally without reading it, now you got to defend all the nonsense in it.

And they would be wrong about that.
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No they would be right ... both Jews and Muslims are STRICT monotheist Unitarians ... The Trinitarian God was way less in common with the Jewish Unitarian Yahweh than the Muslim Unitarian Allah of Abraham has with the Jewish Unitarian Yahweh.

The only argument in the article that the muslims have a different God from the Jews is this moon good conspiracy, which would get you quickly laughed at by anyone in Scholarship. Everything else says that it's not the same God as the Christians .... of coarse .... The Christian God is trinitarian, the Muslim and Jewish God is Unitarian.
 
RGacky3 said:
....? What are you talking about.

Arab Christians and Jews call god Allah BECAUSE THAT IS THE ARABIC WORD FOR GOD !!!!

The hebrew bible calls God El .... Eloheim ... Did you know El was an ancient Cannanite God? Does that mean that The Hebrew God was actually an ancient Cannanite God? NO, you're committing the fallacy of equivocation.

The conspiracy theory you're saying about the Muslim Allah would be laughed out of ANY scholarly circle, Christian, Islamic or secular .... it's as moronic as those who claim Jesus was actually made up as a Pagan godman figure .... it's total nonsense, and you know it.

Face it ... you posted that article origionally without reading it, now you got to defend all the nonsense in it.

No they would be right ... both Jews and Muslims are STRICT monotheist Unitarians ... The Trinitarian God was way less in common with the Jewish Unitarian Yahweh than the Muslim Unitarian Allah of Abraham has with the Jewish Unitarian Yahweh.

The only argument in the article that the muslims have a different God from the Jews is this moon good conspiracy, which would get you quickly laughed at by anyone in Scholarship. Everything else says that it's not the same God as the Christians .... of coarse .... The Christian God is trinitarian, the Muslim and Jewish God is Unitarian.
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Nope. Allah is the pagan moon god.

The Jewish / Christian God is a Trinity, but you and all the rest who don't understand that are steeped in ingnorance.

However, there are various ancient Jewish Rabbis who speak about the mystery of the Trinity.

The Sacred Mystery of the Trinity

Grant R. Jeffrey Ministries
 
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Logicman said:
Nope. Allah is the pagan moon god.

The Jewish / Christian God is a Trinity, but you and all the rest who don't understand that are steeped in ingnorance.

However, there are various ancient Jewish Rabbis who speak about the mystery of the Trinity.

The Sacred Mystery of the Trinity

Grant R. Jeffrey Ministries
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THIS is what happens when you post an article origionally without reading it ... face it ... when you first posted this article you didn't read it ... you didn't know the arguments in it, you didn't read the cited scriptures .... Nothing.

Now You have to defend the insane idiotic notion that the Islamic Allah is actually a Pagan Moon God ... and you can't defend it, you don't even know the arguments why, you can't respond to the refutations of that laughable assertion, you have to defend something that would get you laughed out of any discussion on Islam .... People who say Yahweh is actually the Pagan God El have a better leg to stand on .... it's a joke ... that's what you get for posting articles without reading them

And NOW you're claiming that Jews actually worship a trinity .... really ... that should be news to every Jew in the world .... No they don't worship a triune God ... they worship a UNITARIAN GOD ... ask any Jew .... Ever ...

Now you made the same mistake again posting an article that YOU HAVEN'T READ .... if you have, then tell me ... what evidence did it present that Jewish Rabbies believed in a triune God?

This is why no one takes you seriously, you never deal with arguments and evidence other people give, and you post articles you don't even read, with arguments you don't understand, and you cite scriptures without reading them, and then when other people read them and refuted you're arguments, you ignore the refutations.
 
RGacky3 said:
THIS is what happens when you post an article origionally without reading it ... face it ... when you first posted this article you didn't read it ... you didn't know the arguments in it, you didn't read the cited scriptures .... Nothing.

Now You have to defend the insane idiotic notion that the Islamic Allah is actually a Pagan Moon God ... and you can't defend it, you don't even know the arguments why, you can't respond to the refutations of that laughable assertion, you have to defend something that would get you laughed out of any discussion on Islam .... People who say Yahweh is actually the Pagan God El have a better leg to stand on .... it's a joke ... that's what you get for posting articles without reading them

And NOW you're claiming that Jews actually worship a trinity .... really ... that should be news to every Jew in the world .... No they don't worship a triune God ... they worship a UNITARIAN GOD ... ask any Jew .... Ever ...

Now you made the same mistake again posting an article that YOU HAVEN'T READ .... if you have, then tell me ... what evidence did it present that Jewish Rabbies believed in a triune God?

This is why no one takes you seriously, you never deal with arguments and evidence other people give, and you post articles you don't even read, with arguments you don't understand, and you cite scriptures without reading them, and then when other people read them and refuted you're arguments, you ignore the refutations.
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Not buying it, Racky. And I did read it.

You've been busted, by me and a number of others.
 
Depends on the god.
If it's the Christian-Judaic-Islamic God, then no. I don't want to be killed for disrespecting my parents a few times (Leviticus 20:9), or for looking at some hot girl across the street with my right eye and have to gouge it out, because it's sinful (Matthew 5:27). So, no.
If it's the Hindu Gods, they're pretty chill and don't send you to hell, because there is no hell in their religion. So yeah, I'd prove them.
Pretty much every other god, aside from Yahweh/Jesus/Allah.
 
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