"Prepper," as in being a survivalist.
I'm curious to the feedbacks on this. Of course for us, the ultimate prep would be THE Prep to face the Lord.
"Prepper," as in being a survivalist.
I'm curious to the feedbacks on this. Of course for us, the ultimate prep would be THE Prep to face the Lord.
Of course it is. Not every disaster is Armageddon, and Christians are supposed to preserve their lives to the best of their ability.
The least to expect from a good christian soldier is a good rumble with riders of the apocalypse, when they come.
What logic drives you to think that it would not be ok?
I think that yes, it is okay to become a survivalist or to prep for disaster.....but on the other hand, I was wondering if that takes away trust in the Lord?
If your neighbor comes knocking at your door asking for food...can we deny him ( since we've got our own family who rely on us for their own survival)?
I'm just getting conflicted on this, thus I'd like to see various Christian viewpoints.
I think that yes, it is okay to become a survivalist or to prep for disaster.....but on the other hand, I was wondering if that takes away trust in the Lord?
Uhm... I don't think God intended for Christians to be stupid and depend on Him to save them or do everything for them.
There is this joke that is in my native tongue, I shall translate it as adequately as possible .
A man is drowning in the middle of a large lake. A swimmer comes to him with a float jacket and says: take this jacket and come with me to the shore!; and the drowning man replies: No, I trust God will save me!
A few minutes later a fisherman comes by and says: grab my hand, I shall pull you from the water... but the drowning man replies: No, God will save me.
Then a yacht comes by full of people and they all offer to save him but the drowning man stopped all of them from attempting by saying: no, god will save me.
After that he drowned.
Eventually he drowned and died and went to face God. And he asked God: Lord, why didn't you save me? And God replied: Didn't save you? I sent you a lifeguard, a fisherman in a boat and a yacht full of people to save you.. and yet you did not accept my help.
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Or another way to look at it: God helps those who help themselves.
i really do not understand how you can be conflicted about this at all... I just don't understand how as a Christian, that is, if you really are, don't understand such things. I mean, who taught you to think the way you do?
Your point is well taken, your story is appreciated (I found myself chuckling with the humor) - that I gave you a like.
However, your last comment is quite insulting that I withdrew the like.
I just don't understand how anyone participating in a mature discussion have to be abrasive. You don't have a clue about diplomacy, I guess. Who taught you that way?
Anyway, I'll just put you on ignore right now. I don't have the time for juvenile responses, sorry.
You're calling it juvenile reponse... I say: If you think the way you do, you're the juvenile here, at least in terms of mentality? That's a victim mentality through and through and I don't understand, I simply don't, how a human being can have it, let alone a Christian. That sort of mentality goes beyond being un-christian, it's anti-human.
I am thus curious, what kind of a Christian you claim to be. Because that sort of mentality sure as hell isn't taught in Catholicism, Protestantism or Orthodoxism... so you either horribly, horribly misunderstood what the whole thing about being a Christian is about or you're part of another denomination.
The point is, you can't rely on God to help you. You need to help yourself firstly, and if extraordinary circumstances rise that are beyond your control (car accident, earthquake, etc) hope and pray that you make it out alive. Uhm, this doesn't mean that you should be faithful only in times of trouble... it does however mean that unless you find yourself waaay in over your head, don't demand or hope or wish that God intervenes in some way on your behalf.
Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
What logic drives you to think that it would not be ok?
tosca1
I think that yes, it is okay to become a survivalist or to prep for disaster.....but on the other hand, I was wondering if that takes away trust in the Lord?
If your neighbor comes knocking at your door asking for food...can we deny him ( since we've got our own family who rely on us for their own survival)?
I'm just getting conflicted on this, thus I'd like to see various Christian viewpoints.
Rainman05
i really do not understand how you can be conflicted about this at all... I just don't understand how as a Christian, that is, if you really are, don't understand such things. I mean, who taught you to think the way you do?
Rainman05
The point is, you can't rely on God to help you. You need to help yourself firstly, and if extraordinary circumstances rise that are beyond your control (car accident, earthquake, etc) hope and pray that you make it out alive. Uhm, this doesn't mean that you should be faithful only in times of trouble... it does however mean that unless you find yourself waaay in over your head, don't demand or hope or wish that God intervenes in some way on your behalf.
"Prepper," as in being a survivalist.
I'm curious to the feedbacks on this. Of course for us, the ultimate prep would be THE Prep to face the Lord.
The point is, you can't rely on God to help you. You need to help yourself firstly, and if extraordinary circumstances rise that are beyond your control (car accident, earthquake, etc) hope and pray that you make it out alive. Uhm, this doesn't mean that you should be faithful only in times of trouble... it does however mean that unless you find yourself waaay in over your head, don't demand or hope or wish that God intervenes in some way on your behalf.
"Prepper," as in being a survivalist.
I'm curious to the feedbacks on this. Of course for us, the ultimate prep would be THE Prep to face the Lord.
Well I don't know; Joseph could probably have been considered a prepper; God was using him ultimately as part of His plan to save Israel...I think that yes, it is okay to become a survivalist or to prep for disaster.....but on the other hand, I was wondering if that takes away trust in the Lord?
If your neighbor comes knocking at your door asking for food...can we deny him ( since we've got our own family who rely on us for their own survival)?
I'm just getting conflicted on this, thus I'd like to see various Christian viewpoints.
"Prepper," as in being a survivalist.
I'm curious to the feedbacks on this. Of course for us, the ultimate prep would be THE Prep to face the Lord.
Well I don't know; Joseph could probably have been considered a prepper; God was using him ultimately as part of His plan to save Israel...
I will have to disagree. I do rely on my Father to help me, and He has never let me down, not even in the darkest of times. I do think there is wisdom in the saying, "Trust God...but lock your car."
Well I don't know; Joseph could probably have been considered a prepper; God was using him ultimately as part of His plan to save Israel...
I think it's prudent to make at least reasonable preparations for disasters, particularly when there clues exist of impending problems. And it's important I think we think of those around us who might not be prepared - our preparations might mean their survival (or more) as well.
But I also think we can take it too far - particularly when our preparations lead us into isolation, when our efforts are to save us and us alone. But then, some of that might be considered prudent as well, given disasters tend to drive people into raging mobs which can only make the disaster worse.
So if one approach it prayerfully and prudently, I don't really have a problem with it.
Wouldn't Noah be the ultimate prepper? He even had a Bug-out Ark.