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Nasa's Tetrads and John Hagee's Bood Moons

tosca1 said:
However, Genesis' statement about signs is backed by the New Testatment! Along the same context as using the sun, the moon, and the stars for signs. Therefore, it is as it reads! God created the heavenly bodies and stated their purpose!


As for astrology, some people tend to rely on astrology for their everyday function and fortunes.....we are not supposed to do that. We rely on God, our Creator. Not the heavenly bodies. That is paganistic!
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There's a huge difference between the signs in Christianity, and Pagan astrology. The signs used in the Bible are already foretold and set in stone. In astrology, one looks to find signs in the sky so they can foretell. Hagee is a false prophet who is using Pagan practice to "predict" future events. Pretty sure both Testaments had a thing or two to say about that.

Well I don't care to dwell deeply on what they or the dynamics of their worship in particular but they do worship the Sun (they have a Sun God) and animals and trees. Anyone who worship anything in the heavens, on earth and under the ground is a pagan.
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You should do some research into what Paganism actually is, because I think that you're very misinformed on the topic.
 
Surtr said:
There's a huge difference between the signs in Christianity, and Pagan astrology. The signs used in the Bible are already foretold and set in stone. In astrology, one looks to find signs in the sky so they can foretell. Hagee is a false prophet who is using Pagan practice to "predict" future events. Pretty sure both Testaments had a thing or two to say about that.
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Yes, they're foretold. He quoted the Bible verses wherein he based his sermon.

Other than following what was written in the Bible, what event did he predict?


You should do some research into what Paganism actually is, because I think that you're very misinformed on the topic.
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I am not misinformed. Create a separate thread for it so we can discuss it.
 
tosca1 said:
Yes, they're foretold. He quoted the Bible verses wherein he based his sermon.

Other than following what was written in the Bible, what event did he predict?
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You can quote bible verses and then twist them and interperate them outside their context and meaning ... thta isn't being faithful to scripture.

The fact is Jesus stated "no one knows but the Father"

and the scriptures condemn explicitly looking for omens in the sky.

So When approaching escatalogical texts in the bible it must be in THAT context.
 
RGacky3 said:
You can quote bible verses and then twist them and interperate them outside their context and meaning ... thta isn't being faithful to scripture.

The fact is Jesus stated "no one knows but the Father"

and the scriptures condemn explicitly looking for omens in the sky.

So When approaching escatalogical texts in the bible it must be in THAT context.
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I suggest you watch the video. No one is predicting the coming blood moons brings Judgement Day.
 
tosca1 said:
Yes, they're foretold. He quoted the Bible verses wherein he based his sermon.

Other than following what was written in the Bible, what event did he predict?
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He's using the moon to vaguely predicting a significant event for Israel. Unless it's explicitly written in the texts by an actual prophet, this is nothing more than a false prophecy.




I am not misinformed. Create a separate thread for it so we can discuss it.
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That will be later today. Going to be a very busy day today.
 
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He's using the moon to vaguely predicting a significant event for Israel. Unless it's explicitly written in the texts by an actual prophet, this is nothing more than a false prophecy.
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He is not predicting. He is, however, speculating that this might have something to do with the prophecy of Ezekiel. And Hagee has reasonable reasons to speculate about that since we know the volatile situation with Israel and Iran.

Speculation is greatly different from prediction. Read the following explicitly written text by the prophet Ezekiel.

Ezekiel 38

Gog and Allies Attack Israel

38 Now the word of the Lord came to me, saying, 2 “Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the prince of Rosh,[a] Meshech, and Tubal, and prophesy against him, 3 and say, ‘Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I am against you, O Gog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal. 4 I will turn you around, put hooks into your jaws, and lead you out, with all your army, horses, and horsemen, all splendidly clothed, a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords. 5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya[c] are with them, all of them with shield and helmet; 6 Gomer and all its troops; the house of Togarmah from the far north and all its troops—many people are with you.

7 “Prepare yourself and be ready, you and all your companies that are gathered about you; and be a guard for them. 8 After many days you will be visited. In the latter years you will come into the land of those brought back from the sword and gathered from many people on the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate; they were brought out of the nations, and now all of them dwell safely. 9 You will ascend, coming like a storm, covering the land like a cloud, you and all your troops and many peoples with you.”

10 ‘Thus says the Lord God: “On that day it shall come to pass that thoughts will arise in your mind, and you will make an evil plan: 11 You will say, ‘I will go up against a land of unwalled villages; I will go to a peaceful people, who dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates’— 12 to take plunder and to take booty, to stretch out your hand against the waste places that are again inhabited, and against a people gathered from the nations, who have acquired livestock and goods, who dwell in the midst of the land. 13 Sheba, Dedan, the merchants of Tarshish, and all their young lions will say to you, ‘Have you come to take plunder? Have you gathered your army to take booty, to carry away silver and gold, to take away livestock and goods, to take great plunder?’”’

14 “Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say to Gog, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “On that day when My people Israel dwell safely, will you not know it? 15 Then you will come from your place out of the far north, you and many peoples with you, all of them riding on horses, a great company and a mighty army. 16 You will come up against My people Israel like a cloud, to cover the land. It will be in the latter days that I will bring you against My land, so that the nations may know Me, when I am hallowed in you, O Gog, before their eyes.” 17 Thus says the Lord God: “Are you he of whom I have spoken in former days by My servants the prophets of Israel, who prophesied for years in those days that I would bring you against them?

Judgment on Gog

18 “And it will come to pass at the same time, when Gog comes against the land of Israel,” says the Lord God, “that My fury will show in My face. 19 For in My jealousy and in the fire of My wrath I have spoken: ‘Surely in that day there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel, 20 so that the fish of the sea, the birds of the heavens, the beasts of the field, all creeping things that creep on the earth, and all men who are on the face of the earth shall shake at My presence. The mountains shall be thrown down, the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.’ 21 I will call for a sword against Gog throughout all My mountains,” says the Lord God. “Every man’s sword will be against his brother. 22 And I will bring him to judgment with pestilence and bloodshed; I will rain down on him, on his troops, and on the many peoples who are with him, flooding rain, great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. 23 Thus I will magnify Myself and sanctify Myself, and I will be known in the eyes of many nations. Then they shall know that I am the Lord.”’



That will be later today. Going to be a very busy day today.
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Just keep in mind that my view on paganism will tend to be along the biblical lines.
 
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OOOPS. My NASA date is incomplete. And I was given further info.

but you have listed only the first two blood moons there with their associated (later) solar eclipses. The other two blood moons will come in 2015, but what is the most remarkable is that all four fall on either Passover or Tabernacles -- significant Jewish feasts. The latter two are on Passover, April 4, 2015 and then Tabernacles, the 28th September, 2015. The latter two also have partial solar eclipses associated with them.
This lunar tetrad event, coupled with Jewish feasts, will only occur once in this 21st century.
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Another info was given to me:


There have been 7 occasions since the year 1 A.D. in which this cluster ( tetrad ) of 4 blood moons have fallen on Feast days in consecutive years.

The 3 you mentioned actually happened in 1493-1494 , 1949-1950 and 1967-1968 , Israel was cast out of Spain , Israel was reborn and The miraculous Six days war.

Now we are set to experience the same phenomenon in 2014-2015.
Seven times since 1 A.D. the blood moons have appeared on Jewish feast days, but 3 times within the last 70 years is a very intriguing fact.
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There is a certain "feel" (I can't find the exact word right now) to everything that's happening around us - here and around the globe.
I tend to watch the streaming newsline at the bottom of a news channel, and I couldn't help but notice the earthquakes alone in different parts of the world - in the last week - Philippines, Papua New Guinea, Mexico and maybe more that I've missed mentioning, not to mention other natural disasters which are becoming so frequent.

Earthquakes In The Last Week

Natural Disasters Becoming More Frequent | Worldwatch Institute

Add to that the wars and civil unrests, the famine in some parts of the world, the diseases and economic collapse.

It's feels like everything is heading for a big climax.

Thus I'm so intrigued by this, and can't wait to see what could be happening in 2014-15.



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I've just been given another info. Got to check it out.
 
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Blood Red Moon and End Time Events (Part 1 of 6)

 
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Part 6

 
Brought up as easy reference to the Ebola thread.

May I just remind everyone that we're talking about significant events.

We're not speculating about the Second Coming.
 
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The ebola thread disappeared!

Oh well....since I already brought it up in that thread, I might as well bring it up here.


The modern plague, ebola.

I was just musing a few days back of the Blood Moons (see Nasa's Tetrads and the Blood Moons), and couldn't help wonder if Ebola is one of the significant events signalled by the Blood Moons?

If I'm not mistaken, one of the Moons would pertain to Israel (which could be happening now too), and one will be a global event (a pandemic perhaps?). There's another blood moon happening in 2015.
 
The last blood moon is coming up on September.

I couldn't help but think about what's happening in the Middle East with Isis (which is galvanizing like-minded extremism all over the world). There is also the rising anti-semitism all over the world, and also the issue with Israel.

Let me just say that I'm not saying it could be the coming of the Messiah.
I'm saying something "big" might happen.



The OP video isn't working, so for those interested, here is it is:






There are also some other video clips that talk more about this from another source in the previous pages.
 
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tosca1 said:
I'm saying something "big" might happen.
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There is always something "big" happening somewhere in the world. You could come up with any random selection of historic dates and create some kind of pattern of events from them.

Unless you can demonstrate a mechanism by which the relative positions of objects in space influences these events (or vice versa), you've got nothing.
 
HonestJoe said:
There is always something "big" happening somewhere in the world. You could come up with any random selection of historic dates and create some kind of pattern of events from them.

Unless you can demonstrate a mechanism by which the relative positions of objects in space influences these events (or vice versa), you've got nothing.
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From what I understand, it usually has something to do with Israel (and something that is worldwide).

I brought this up again because of September, the last of the blood moons, and the way things are unfolding all over the world (not only with Islamic extremists) - there are world conflicts, and economic instability, and there's ebola, not to mention all the natural disasters everywhere.

Was there ever a time like this when everything seems to be building up fast to a crescendo?
When the clash of cymbals awaits at the end?

I haven't researched that so I'm asking.
 
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tosca1 said:
From what I understand, it usually has something to do with Israel (and something that is worldwide).
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Or something to do with a Spanish explorer who you then decide was secretly Jewish which somehow makes it to do with Israel, which didn't even exist at the time. :2razz:

As I said though, you could pick any set of years you like and construct a similar pattern of events.

tosca1 said:
Was there ever a time like this when everything seems to be building up fast to a crescendo?
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Yes. There have been a couple of actual "crescendos" such as the Reformation or the World Wars. World conflicts, economic shifts and natural disasters have always existed though. One thing that is different today is the mass communication which means we can learn about all of them in great detail pretty much instantly. That creates the false impression that there is more going on now that there was in the past.
 
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