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When it come to religion, why can't everyone stop being hostile?

RabidAlpaca said:
When has anybody forced adults to learn evolution? We're talking about school children.

So explain to me, why should our school children be forced to learn something that's faith based, but not fact based?

You're claiming evolution is based on faith, if that's true, why should christianity, which is also based on faith, be taught instead?
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Parents should be allowed to determine what their kids are taught in public schools. The curriculum should be set by school boards at the local level, without interference from the Feds.
 
The General said:
What separate Faith form fact is that fact require evidence,and faith require you to believe without proof, and we have evidence of evolution. Personally I think god guided our evolution to see to it we would exist. That or he set up the dominoes to lead to our existence.
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Evidence isn't some new concept that we invented in the last hundred years. People have always sought evidence to support their beliefs.

The current crop of evidence supports the current set of scientific beliefs. If history is any indication, those beliefs will change as new evidence is discovered, or as current evidence is reexamined.
 
Peter Grimm said:
Show me.
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You said as much in the post I responded to. It started as a concept of more than one being an entity in itself, then simple number and arithmetic, then geometry, and so on, each stage evolving from another.
 
Manc Skipper said:
You said as much in the post I responded to. It started as a concept of more than one being an entity in itself, then simple number and arithmetic, then geometry, and so on, each stage evolving from another.
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Yes, and in that way it differs from other academic disciplines such as biology, where commonly accepted wisdom is challenged and overturned all the time.
 
Sciences, such as biology, also evolve, as more data is added to the whole, the disciplines become more complex and accurate.
 
Peter Grimm said:
Parents should be allowed to determine what their kids are taught in public schools. The curriculum should be set by school boards at the local level, without interference from the Feds.
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Local school authorities do play some part in curriculum creation. Parents should not be dictating what is taught in public schools, because then we'll have people like you who will want all bible classes and zero science classes, and that will end up screwing the children over pretty badly.

If you want to rob your child of an education, you can home school them. Don't however expect to be able to rob other people's children.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Local school authorities do play some part in curriculum creation. Parents should not be dictating what is taught in public schools, because then we'll have people like you who will want all bible classes and zero science classes, and that will end up screwing the children over pretty badly.

If you want to rob your child of an education, you can home school them. Don't however expect to be able to rob other people's children.
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The beauty of the school board is that it's voted in by the local population. If you don't like the curriculum, vote the school board out.

I'd just like to see a bit more democracy in the process, and a bit less of the feds/supreme court forcing their curriculum on the general public.
 
Peter Grimm said:
The beauty of the school board is that it's voted in by the local population. If you don't like the curriculum, vote the school board out.

I'd just like to see a bit more democracy in the process, and a bit less of the feds/supreme court forcing their curriculum on the general public.
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Education should be more of a republic, not a democracy. If it were a democracy, 51% of the parents could vote for all bible classes and zero science classes, and the other 49% of families would be screwed. Every kid deserves the chance at an education. Having their lives ruined before they started because instead of learning the things they need for college, they learned about bible verses.

You only support that idea because you believe your area would vote the way you want. If instead they voted for heavy science, evolution, and no religion, you'd be opposed to the idea.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Education should be more of a republic, not a democracy. If it were a democracy, 51% of the parents could vote for all bible classes and zero science classes, and the other 49% of families would be screwed. Every kid deserves the chance at an education. Having their lives ruined before they started because instead of learning the things they need for college, they learned about bible verses.

You only support that idea because you believe your area would vote the way you want. If instead they voted for heavy science, evolution, and no religion, you'd be opposed to the idea.
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Then I'd move somewhere more Christian, and everyone would be happy.

Parents have a right to raise their own kids he way they see fit. I hate to see parents and the parenting role replaced government workers.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Here's a prime example from another thread:

Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com

A woman was fired for having pre-marital sex. Many religionists run around doing things like this, then turn around later with bambi eyes wondering why people are so hostile towards their religion.



Except for the people who put their religion in politics by creating and supporting morality laws, or opposing basic human rights for gays. Or people who do things like I mention above, firing people who don't fit their code.

Most religionists try, one way or another, to shove their religion down everyone else's throats.
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It is a private religious institution? On top of that she signed a contract agreeing to it. So you tell me where is the foul for a religion being guided by their own doctrine legally.

Ignorance of something is no reason or excuse to hate it.

PS All laws are based on some kind of morality as the only absolute in this life is death. So that's no excuse again. We all get our morals from someplace right or wrong. So please explain why anyone's morals are more important when they are completely subjective?
 
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