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What Do You Think Would Happen

makmugens said:
How did you arrive at the thought that the bible is an allegory for evolution? Where in the bible of the Judeo-Chrisitian religious writings outside of modern re-interpretation based on the evolving nature of the sciences of the times- does it say that Genesis is artistically describing Evolution. Still, I am confused. Who created men and were we not created by God or evolved from other animals? If the bible is sporting evolution, than it conflicts with the sense that God made man. Unless he made an animal that evolved into man.
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There is nothing in the Bible that disproves evolution nor is there anything in the Theory of Evolution that dismissing a Creator. Even Darwin himself noted that his theories did not disprove or dismiss God. The serious lack of detail on how man came into being allows for both to be correct. The Bible notes that man was formed of the ground, while evolution says we come from a primordial ooze (which would be part of the ground). Since God was counting days before the means by which we measure a day was created we can guess those were his days and who know how long they are/were. Of course there is the seeming contradiction of where did Adam and Eve come from. But they could well be the first two or the only two of the primates whom he removed from the general population and gave a heightened intelligence to. In the end, at the current level of technology, we can't prove either one.
 
lizzie said:
Hmmm, interesting take on the subject. God favored Abel for blood sacrificing, as opposed to Cain's plant-based offerings, but the Homo Sapien is the jealous blood-thirsty murderer. I'll have to ponder that for awhile, as there seems to be a contradiction that I haven't considered.
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It's probably just one of the many many many parts of the old testament that are essentially propaganda pieces extolling the virtues of the goatherding lifestyle of the ancient Hebrew while dissing their more agrarian neighbors. That's also why you aren't supposed to mix various fabrics. You should be wearing just animal skins and not using clothing made from farming. That's also the original reason for the dietary restrictions against certain land animals. The rules were tailored to allow just what the Hebrews already had (goats and sheep), and declare the farmed animals of the cultures around them (like pigs) unclean.

It's also the basis for the story of the Exodus. The enslavement that the Hebrews endured was being compelled to work on building pyramids and other such construction projects. What the story leaves out is that all of the Egyptians were also doing that. That construction took place during the off seasons, when there was no farming to do. It was a natural part of the Egyptian culture, and was centered around a farm system, not a goatherding one.

There's a lot of condemnation of farmers in the old testament.
 
maquiscat said:
There is nothing in the Bible that disproves evolution nor is there anything in the Theory of Evolution that dismissing a Creator. Even Darwin himself noted that his theories did not disprove or dismiss God. The serious lack of detail on how man came into being allows for both to be correct. The Bible notes that man was formed of the ground, while evolution says we come from a primordial ooze (which would be part of the ground). Since God was counting days before the means by which we measure a day was created we can guess those were his days and who know how long they are/were. Of course there is the seeming contradiction of where did Adam and Eve come from. But they could well be the first two or the only two of the primates whom he removed from the general population and gave a heightened intelligence to. In the end, at the current level of technology, we can't prove either one.
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Kinda find the whole explaining the Bible with science weird. So much is outside science. Like the works of God. He's a God. He doesn't operate through natural laws. He wills it and it happens. God, himself, seems like a being beyond scientific explanation. A bunch of infinities wrapped in a single package.

Paschendale said:
It's probably just one of the many many many parts of the old testament that are essentially propaganda pieces extolling the virtues of the goatherding lifestyle of the ancient Hebrew while dissing their more agrarian neighbors. That's also why you aren't supposed to mix various fabrics. You should be wearing just animal skins and not using clothing made from farming. That's also the original reason for the dietary restrictions against certain land animals. The rules were tailored to allow just what the Hebrews already had (goats and sheep), and declare the farmed animals of the cultures around them (like pigs) unclean.

There was something once that I think I saw on the history or the discovery channel that stated that many Israelite's were not slaves but skilled workers imported from outside the kingdom to work on these monumental tasks. And even though they were outsiders they eventually were able to work their way up to positions of power and/or influence and certainly wealth. Josep (or Joshua...whichever read dreams and dreamed of the Ladder to Heaven) was a great example. Some believe he may have actually been a pharaoh in practice is not in name. Makes sense, too. How could slaves have the carpentry skills needed to work the stones, level the plains, etc?

There's a lot of condemnation of farmers in the old testament.
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Actually, it also left out that many of the Hebrews were not really slaves but imported workers. Probably paid less, surely, but they were eventually allowed t mingle in Egyptian society and eventually worked their way up to offices of power. Joshua (or Josep...the one who dreamed of the Latter to Heaven) was a great example of that. Some historians believe he was actually a pharaoh, if not in name than in effect.
 
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makmugens said:
I just found this an irresistible question to ask after having thought about it for a while, but, to all people who believe in the Christian/Catholic faith, who would you be, now, if Adam and Eve never ate the apple from the Tree of Life and disobeyed God?
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All of us would be in a supernatural paradise.
 
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