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Is God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit 3 separate entities?

Jesus, God the Father, and the Holy Spirit are all God. Jesus is God in human flesh. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God on the earth, and God the Father is the Judge. They are three in one, different but the same. It's beyond human comprehension, I can understand the concept but being a finite human with vastly limited intelligence when compared to God I cannot fully comprehend that fact.
 
They are three separate beings unified by one purpose. In the garden of Gethsemane Jesus was praying to the Father,not himself. Another example is when John the Baptist baptized Jesus. There was the Fathers presence, " And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased" Luke chapter 3:24
 
Enola said:
I get confused. Did God take human form as Jesus? Or was Jesus unique?
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God, Jesus, and the Holy spirit are all the same person but in different forms. 3 in 1 and 1 in 3.
 
Rigg said:
They are three separate beings unified by one purpose. In the garden of Gethsemane Jesus was praying to the Father,not himself. Another example is when John the Baptist baptized Jesus. There was the Fathers presence, " And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased" Luke chapter 3:24
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That is not entirely true. If it where then we would have three Gods would we not? Jesus does pray to God but later on it is adressed in one of the letters to the church

Phil. 2:5-8 - "Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7 but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. 9 Therefore also God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, 10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those who are in heaven, and on earth, and under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."
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There you are :)
 
We ourselves are God's literal children. Just as Jesus is the first born and is our most beloved elder brother. They are not one and the same. There are things that even our Heavenly Father needs to abide by lest he cease to be God. Ask yourselves this, "Can God make a rock so big that he can't pick it up?". This is just one example but there were many loyal spirits among God's children that received "God status". The first presidency of heaven are all Gods in their own right. There is God the Father,God the Son,and God the Holy Ghost. We can feel God's presence through the Holy Ghost because he doesn't have a body and we can "feel it in our hearts". Jesus is a son of God just as Satan is. And the Holy Ghost lets God testify the truth of His gospel through the spirit,not just physically.
 
Rigg said:
We ourselves are God's literal children. Just as Jesus is the first born and is our most beloved elder brother. They are not one and the same. There are things that even our Heavenly Father needs to abide by lest he cease to be God. Ask yourselves this, "Can God make a rock so big that he can't pick it up?". This is just one example but there were many loyal spirits among God's children that received "God status". The first presidency of heaven are all Gods in their own right. There is God the Father,God the Son,and God the Holy Ghost. We can feel God's presence through the Holy Ghost because he doesn't have a body and we can "feel it in our hearts". Jesus is a son of God just as Satan is. And the Holy Ghost lets God testify the truth of His gospel through the spirit,not just physically.
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Jesus is different from God's other children. He is God's "only begotten son" as the bible says. To say that someone can achieve God status is to say there is more than one God, which the bible makes evidently clear that is not the case.
 
The Holy Trinity is similar to the idea of the Irrational Third in Hinduism and the Yin-Yang in Daoism.

Jesus said, "The Father and I are one." Jesus was a man but he was also God, simultaneously. Everything I'm writing about here, I was inspired to learn about by reading what Jesus said about his own nature. It echos so many other spiritual systems around the world, which leads me to believe that Christianity definitely has a seed of truth in it.

It seems like the ultimate goal of most religions - once you put aside the politics - is to invoke a feeling of oneness with the infinite, in order to help you realize that you're actively part of creation and the Creator. It's why I can't totally practice Christianity... the idea that God is separate from us just doesn't make sense to me. That would be like saying your own children don't contain you in them, when they are made up of the same stuff you're made up of. Not only that, you're not anyone's child, but just one more manifestation of Divinity. If you and God are one, then that would make you loving equals by virtue of the connection of sameness.

It's sort of contradictory to do rituals like the blood-wine and eucharist to represent embodying and becoming a piece of the Creator, and then say that God must be obeyed or we suffer wrath. Are we part of the Creator or not?

Once you unify all binaries and realize that everything is made up of the same substance - which is God - you experience awakening. I think this is what Jesus and other similar historical figures try to illustrate in their teachings, which is why they are considered enlightened beings. To know and be Oneness all the time, 24 hours a day, would take a level of spiritual advancement that is very rare. There would no longer be a practical distinction between the person's ego and their Divine embodiment.
 
For about 300 years the early church beat this dead horse until Constatine made them select one or the other....
Early members came from the Jews, originally believers in one god, and the gentiles, originally believers in many gods. No compromise was forthcoming...
 
"My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" doesn't sound like he was talking to himself to me, but to each their own.
 
Fisher said:
"My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" doesn't sound like he was talking to himself to me, but to each their own.
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Jesus, among other things was a teacher and lived his life as an example as well as a sacrifice. We can only assume that some of what he said and did was soley for the purpose of relating to humanity. God, in his infinite wisdom, probably understood that believers could more easily relate to a life of sacrificial love, if the example were set by an "earthly" being of flesh and blood.........who was both "of God" and simultaneously "was God." :shrug:
 
Sorry, I must have made a mistake and logged on to "DebateReligion" or "Religico."
 
FluffyNinja said:
Jesus, among other things was a teacher and lived his life as an example as well as a sacrifice. We can only assume that some of what he said and did was soley for the purpose of relating to humanity. God, in his infinite wisdom, probably understood that believers could more easily relate to a life of sacrificial love, if the example were set by an "earthly" being of flesh and blood.........who was both "of God" and simultaneously "was God." :shrug:
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I struggled with the meaning of Christ sacrifice for many years, until I began to question why a God would not prevent it. It finally dawned on me He could've changed their minds against them seeking His death without anyone knowing but then they wouldn't have free will. He could've controlled everyone if He wished but He obviously thought it so important that humans have the ability to choose, even ignorant, sadistic and vicious choices in order for them to grow into diverse, unique individuals able to mature without His direct control and influence. It was either let humans continue to have free will or basically destroy them for not being good and recognizing His deity on earth in human form. There's obviously more involved than my simple explanation but it finally began to make some sense too me. How can you create a people of many flavors without letting them live their own lives, even when it opposes your own will?

Does that make any sense?
 
Yes, it does.
 
Wayno said:
Sorry, I must have made a mistake and logged on to "DebateReligion" or "Religico."
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Very funny. Now look at the top of the page and see what sub-forum you are in genius. :doh
 
whysoserious said:
Yes, exactly, don't say anything logical in this sub-forum or it might get you a short vacation!
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What was so logical about what he posted? On the contrary, I felt it was quite inaccurate in describing the entire forum.
 
whysoserious said:
Yes, exactly, don't say anything logical in this sub-forum or it might get you a short vacation!
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What's your deal anyway? You a Patriots fan and feeling left out today, or just woke up angry because a lot of people are going to church this morning? :lol:
 
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The General said:
According to the Latter Day Saints Joseph Smith, their first prophet of this age, saw God and Jesus side by side.
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Moses saw His body also but nobody has supposedly seen His face. It's really all a big guess.
 
In addition to Joseph Smith seeing God he also saw Jesus Christ.
 
Medusa said:
enola ,christ was a prophet ,not a god who had taken human form ,so you should pray to god ,not to jesus christ.
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I disagree. Jesus is God, in human form to pay the price for the sin of man by freely accepting the punishment for sin. And man can freely chose to accept or reject the free gift of eternal life by accepting and openly acknowleding that Jesus is the Son of God who died for our sins and is risen from the dead.
 
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