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Do unbelievers deserve to burn in hell?

Do moral unbelievers deserve to burn in hell?

  • Yes

    Votes: 14 28.0%

  • No

    Votes: 36 72.0%
  • Total voters
    50
MadLib

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Obviously, with crimes such as murder, rape, and pedophilia, most Christians would agree that the sinners got what was coming for them. But how about unbelievers? If a person is moral and ethical in every other way, many Christians would say that they would still burn. The question is: do they deserve it? Is the "crime" in not believing what is normally just a different culture rightfully punishable by eternal torture?
 
MadLib said:
Obviously, with crimes such as murder, rape, and pedophilia, most Christians would agree that the sinners got what was coming for them. But how about unbelievers? If a person is moral and ethical in every other way, many Christians would say that they would still burn. The question is: do they deserve it? Is the "crime" in not believing what is normally just a different culture rightfully punishable by eternal torture?
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Christians can't give a consistent answer...to most things... I don't see the point of asking.
 
If I were God I wouldn't send non-believers to hell. Then again, if I were God there wouldn't be a hell....or a heaven for that matter. Life would end at death: no eternity, no judgment, no questioning. People who did bad things would receive their punishment on earth.
 
MadLib said:
Obviously, with crimes such as murder, rape, and pedophilia, most Christians would agree that the sinners got what was coming for them. But how about unbelievers? If a person is moral and ethical in every other way, many Christians would say that they would still burn. The question is: do they deserve it? Is the "crime" in not believing what is normally just a different culture rightfully punishable by eternal torture?
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Do you understand the metaphor of Greek fire?

It doesn't burn with heat, it cooks the soles of ancestry with passion in denying what is real and when reality fails the last ancestors standing don't know how to balance themselves to prevent self extinction..
 
A loving God does not torture. Its quite simple really.
 
kenvin said:
A loving God does not torture. Its quite simple really.
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More than you care to not understand real for reality's sake. Showing the substance of eternity doesn't take faith. It takes comprehending what metaphors cover up and why.
 
OneMale said:
More than you care to not understand real for reality's sake. Showing the substance of eternity doesn't take faith. It takes comprehending what metaphors cover up and why.
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What? Dude you need to learn to communicate in less cryptic language.
 
kenvin said:
What? Dude you need to learn to communicate in less cryptic language.
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This isn't cryptic, it is self evident functions working the same way all the time. Humanity is cryptic. Being human is natural balance in motion.
 
Wow man... man we are all one... dude a continuum....everything in constant motion... an ever changing progression.. we are just blinded by our perceptions.... **cough**... dude pass the joint.
 
kenvin said:
Wow man... man we are all one... dude a continuum....everything in constant motion... an ever changing progression.. we are just blinded by our perceptions.... **cough**... dude pass the joint.
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Thanks for the open minded interpretation of sole results being individual lifetimes of their own in the same moment. Contracting results expanding the next details using the same selfcontained mass of matter never duplicating anything twice because of compounding total sums added together in one universal baalnced position of now.

Sole is unique not same, just same results working the common path of genetic migration each generation the species remains male and female lifetimes.... man. Talk about the substance of symbols and symbolic interpretation and all characters of humanity are ready for war over adding things together as a whole how and why things got so out of control.

I wish I could say I was confused about being a sole result of human ancestry to why and how I am the uimage of all previous lifetimes invlved with my conception each genration living this now existence upon the constantly changing details here on this planet.

Why did anyone ever say things were self evident then and actions speak louder than words?
 
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OneMale said:
Thanks for the open minded interpretation of sole results being individual lifetimes of their own in the same moment. Contracting results expanding the next details using the same selfcontained mass of matter never duplicating anything twice because of compounding total sums added together in one universal baalnced position of now.

Sole is unique not same, just same results working the common path of genetic migration each generation the species remains male and female lifetimes.... man. Talk about the substance of symbols and symbolic interpretation and all characters of humanity are ready for war over adding things together as a whole how and why things got so out of control.

I wish I could say I was confused about being a sole result of human ancestry to why and how I am the uimage of all previous lifetimes invlved with my conception each genration living this now existence upon the constantly changing details here on this planet.

Why did anyone ever say things were self evident then and actions speak louder than words?
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Identical twins are duplicates. What about them?
 
kenvin said:
Identical twins are duplicates. What about them?
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they look alike they do not have the same fingerprints. yes the two bodies split from one fertilized cell but grew into two sole results. Oops, did that put a hole in your theory?

Now look at paternal twins, shows how each male reproduct cell makes separate results with each one. Oops, there is another hole in another theory. Now with energy cannot be created or destroyed where does the knowledge in each male reproductive cell that doesn't fertilize an egg?

That makes now eternity as it didn't go anywhere else but remain in the moment chainging wverything else into continuing as balanced so far. It is then food chain that develops the fertilized cell into a lifetime. Know how molecular migration moves in three separate states of existing in a stablized periodic table of elements making each cell stay operating as it balances out now.

It covers every defined spirituality religion ever defined socially.
 
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OneMale said:
they look alike they do not have the same fingerprints. yes the two bodies split from one fertilized cell but grew into two sole results. Oops, did that put a hole in your theory?
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They are genetically identicle. So no doesn't put a hole in my theory.
 
kenvin said:
They are genetically identicle. So no doesn't put a hole in my theory.
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Look deeper, they can tell the difference between the two genetically. Again snowflakes and fingerprints put together in compounding results. Know exponenetials before existentially defining them between theology and theory competing to be the only definition of reality and humanity.
 
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OneMale said:
Look deeper, they can tell the difference between the two genetically. Again snowflakes and fingerprints put together in compounding results. Know exponenetials before existentially defining them between theology and theory competing to be the only definition of reality and humanity.
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Snow flakes. lol. that reminds me You are like a snowflake unique just like everyone else. lol
 
What does it even mean? "Do moral unbelievers deserve to burn in hell?" How moral am I? How moral are you? Who determines that-- a god I don't believe in?
 
kenvin said:
Snow flakes. lol. that reminds me You are like a snowflake unique just like everyone else. lol
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I do think you are catching on. Whether it is just frozen water crystals of compounded combination of all the elements mixed together in cellular adapting form, it works the same way in the same moment they exist at the same time never staying as conceived or ideologies contrived creating constant issues that divide a male female population to argue semantics of hypotheses and hypothethicals in hyperbole of economic theory patterned off genetic migration of ancestry to ancestors here now.
 
taxigirl said:
What does it even mean? "Do moral unbelievers deserve to burn in hell?" How moral am I? How moral are you? Who determines that-- a god I don't believe in?
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What substance in functions functioning does the symbolic metaphor God or Karma represent? Eternity. where does this physical eternity only exist? what balances added together now make so far exactly as they balance into what comes next here.
Action = contracting results and reaction = expanding details using the same among of matter always present in three forms creating a 4th added together dimension of space time the three hold form and shape of what is here now.

Simple magnetism.
 
OneMale said:
I do think you are catching on. Whether it is just frozen water crystals of compounded combination of all the elements mixed together in cellular adapting form, it works the same way in the same moment they exist at the same time never staying as conceived or ideologies contrived creating constant issues that divide a male female population to argue semantics of hypotheses and hypothethicals in hyperbole of economic theory patterned off genetic migration of ancestry to ancestors here now.
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OK man... that is like so profound.
 
kenvin said:
OK man... that is like so profound.
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"like so" . not convinced there is any sincerity with the valley girl lingo. But I will accept it anyway. Have a great moment. Remember, eternity is contained within this now moment.
 
MadLib said:
Obviously, with crimes such as murder, rape, and pedophilia, most Christians would agree that the sinners got what was coming for them. But how about unbelievers? If a person is moral and ethical in every other way, many Christians would say that they would still burn. The question is: do they deserve it? Is the "crime" in not believing what is normally just a different culture rightfully punishable by eternal torture?
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When one evaluates hell, it is a question of whether it is morally just, not whether we like or dislike the concept. When you word a question like " do unbelievers burn in hell" it brings about a picture of God as a spiteful being who has imposed unfair, arbitrary rules that we break and then he tortures us forever. Nothing could be further from the truth. The truth about hell has never been rejected until modern times. We have a tendency to care only for softer virtues like love and tenderness, while forgetting about hard virtues like justice, righteousness and holiness. God's decisions are never based on American sentimentalism. So hell is the final sentence that says you refused regularly to live for the purpose you were made. The purpose you were made is to relate lovingly to God and others.
 
Stopandthink said:
When one evaluates hell, it is a question of whether it is morally just, not whether we like or dislike the concept. When you word a question like " do unbelievers burn in hell" it brings about a picture of God as a spiteful being who has imposed unfair, arbitrary rules that we break and then he tortures us forever. Nothing could be further from the truth. The truth about hell has never been rejected until modern times. We have a tendency to care only for softer virtues like love and tenderness, while forgetting about hard virtues like justice, righteousness and holiness. God's decisions are never based on American sentimentalism. So hell is the final sentence that says you refused regularly to live for the purpose you were made. The purpose you were made is to relate lovingly to God and others.
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Hell is a pretty new concept. Jews never believed it.
 
MadLib said:
Obviously, with crimes such as murder, rape, and pedophilia, most Christians would agree that the sinners got what was coming for them.
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Yes, they surly did or will, as for all christian believers who ask for forgiveness from Jesus that will be saved and allowed into heaven... the free pass for sin? :shock:

Fact:Most imprisoned murderers, rapist, and pedophilia offenders believe in god.

The results of the Christians in prison investigation.

The question is: do they deserve it? Is the "crime" in not believing what is normally just a different culture rightfully punishable by eternal torture?
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Wow... that is just a crazy thought to believe in and can not myself answer this "the question"

If you are christian i guess burn in hell too? because; you judged? sinned? Oh never mind you could use the escape clause and use the free pass for sin like the murderers, rapist, and pedophilia offenders that believe in god.
 
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Does this question assume that only the believers in christianity can be correct? What if no christian god exists and things such as honor killings are what the "higher power" or "ultimate being" wants? WHat if there is no god and we have a collective consciousness?

I would love to know who judges morality.
 
taxigirl said:
Does this question assume that only the believers in christianity can be correct? What if no christian god exists and things such as honor killings are what the "higher power" or "ultimate being" wants? WHat if there is no god and we have a collective consciousness?

I would love to know who judges morality.
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A safe bet is that it isn't you or me.

I do think you can rely on the wisdom of "Judge not, lest ye be judged."
 
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