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A question for Christians: do other sects of Christianity burn in hell?

kenvin said:
That makes no sense. If you don't sin you are perfect which is not possible. So all sin.
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Sin is the only thing that makes us less than perfect?
 
mac said:
What is a temporary sin? Besides, Christians believe one can seek and attain forgiveness for their sins.
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No Christians believe we are already forgiven.
 
mac said:
Or perhaps God speaks to us all differently. That "through Jesus" as we Christians understand it can be accomplished in a manner described in another way for other people.
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Interesting theory. But don't Muslims deny Jesus as a Messiah, and only see him as a prohpet.
 
kenvin said:
No Christians believe we are already forgiven.
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That's not true. What happens if you die before being capable of understanding sin and before accepting Jesus as savior?
 
mac said:
Or perhaps God speaks to us all differently. That "through Jesus" as we Christians understand it can be accomplished in a manner described in another way for other people.
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....Then WHY do they go to this Hell place you speak of?
 
mac said:
Right, because multiple schools of thought only exist in religion.
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You could extend the analogy to most ideologies, but it is particularly poignant for religion. It is deliciously absurd how full of false certainty people are about their beliefs but that may just be the nature of human psychology. People may need to fool themselves into believing that they know more than they actually know in order to preserve some sense of ego and direction in life.
 
tecoyah said:
....Then WHY do they go to this Hell place you speak of?
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In Judaism, hell is like an underground root cellar..

I don't think the concepts match Christian thought.. and apparently its temporary.
 
mac said:
That's not true. What happens if you die before being capable of understanding sin and before accepting Jesus as savior?
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Jesus died for all sins. That was the why he died as a blood sacrifice for all humans.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
Interesting theory. But don't Muslims deny Jesus as a Messiah, and only see him as a prohpet.
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I don't know, I'm not Muslim. But Muslims must earn their place in heaven just like Christians, perhaps the manner in which they do that is God's equivalent. Who knows. I find it hard to believe that otherwise good people would be denied God's love for taking a different path to get there.
 
Sins could be simply stupidity. A learning curve for us to make mistakes and correct them, so we can be better people?
 
CriticalThought said:
You could extend the analogy to most ideologies, but it is particularly poignant for religion. It is deliciously absurd how full of false certainty people are about their beliefs but that may just be the nature of human psychology. People may need to fool themselves into believing that they know more than they actually know in order to preserve some sense of ego and direction in life.
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And that is particular to religion and the religious?
 
kenvin said:
Sure it does. All sins are forgiven so they go to heaven.
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No, if all sins are forgiven (automatically), than we can not be born with sin.
 
mac said:
I don't know, I'm not Muslim. But Muslims must earn their place in heaven just like Christians, perhaps the manner in which they do that is God's equivalent. Who knows. I find it hard to believe that otherwise good people would be denied God's love for taking a different path to get there.
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Then what about the people who don't follow any kind of Judeo-Christian faith?
 
I believe we're born imperfect, which would account for sin.
 
mac said:
And that is particular to religion and the religious?
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Yes. The religious seem to take this tendency to the next level. It makes sense that they would need to do so, because they tend to try to impose their beliefs on others either through subtle means of indoctrination or more coercive means. To justify this action they need a heightened level of personal certainty. Just imagine it from outside your current perspective. Could you imagine how absurd it would be for you to be running around the forum arguing about Biblical quotes if the Bible had nothing to do with God? You have to have a great deal of certainty in your beliefs otherwise you would feel like an idiot trying to argue about something that you don't know any better about than anyone else.
 
:dohMy Head Hurts....and I'm dizzy from the pinning...:confused:
 
Sins can be forgiven but we are held responsible for our actions.
 
CriticalThought said:
Yes. The religious seem to take this tendency to the next level. It makes sense that they would need to do so, because they tend to try to impose their beliefs on others either through subtle means of indoctrination or more coercive means. To justify this action they need a heightened level of personal certainty. Just imagine it from outside your current perspective. Could you imagine how absurd it would be for you to be running around the forum arguing about Biblical quotes if the Bible had nothing to do with God? You have to have a great deal of certainty in your beliefs otherwise you would feel like an idiot trying to argue about something that you don't know any better about than anyone else.
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What is the next, or beginning level? As far as imposing belief...it is a duty in Christianity and Islam to "spread the word of God." Simply discussing beliefs is not imposing.

I'm not trying to convince anyone of my beliefs. I'm explaining what I believe and why. I have never proclaimed that there is no possibility that I am wrong...in fact, I have on a number of occasion acknowledged in writing that I could be. Right here on DP, actually. It's obvious that you are atheist, or at the very least, not Christian. It's also obvious that you enjoy ridiculing religion and the religious. So why would you not blow disagreements on theology out of proportion? :shrug:
 
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