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C. Definitely C.
I've never been worried about it. God is who God is, all I can to is decide what my attitude will be.
It would be like asking my dogs if I was perfect. If they could talk I'd imagine they'd say, "Compared to what? Do I always get my way? No. Does he love us? No question about that? He can do miracles and all kinds of stuff. He's awesome."
Dogs are great but they have a limited view.
What's the definition of perfect? Whose definition is that?
What's the definition of God? No one can agree on that.
Humans are great but they have a limited view.
but the view is line of sight, but the ability to comprehend the whole moment is something no other species can translate being understood individually, recognized intellectually or not. Knowing is understanding, knowledge is just recited interpretation. What does a body know knowledge never lets them see?
The concept of God is beyond our comprehension,QUOTE]
Beyond your comprehension. There is no I in team any more than we to my responsibility to understand real without reality telling me I cannot see the self evident myself.
The concept of God is beyond our comprehension,QUOTE]
Beyond your comprehension. There is no I in team any more than we to my responsibility to understand real without reality telling me I cannot see the self evident myself.
yeah...sure...whatever :unsure13:
This is a question I have always wondered when thinking about any religions stories regardign their god. It is always said that god is a perfect being flawless, just, kind and whatever else the person who thinks of god that he/she would consider perfect. Yet in the stories found in texts such as the bible why is it god is always portrayed as angry and spiteful? He does not hesistate to inflict harm on others who disobey him, he smites cities and floods the world if he does not like where things are going and he crashes towns to the ground and confuses the languages of man because he did not like the fact they were united in one area. Yet at the same time people say the reason god does not cure the ailments of man (war, hunger, disease, etc) is because he does not want to interfere with us mortals whenever.
I recall one story I believe is of jewish origins; the story of job. In a nutshell god made a bet with satan that a man called job (who always prayed to him) would remain faithful to him regardless of the situation he was in (job at the time had a wonderfully comfortable life with a wife, kids, farm and a horde of animals) so in order to prove this job's wife and children were killed, his crops destroyed, his animals butchered and he was diseased with terrible conditions that cause great pain to him. Yeah, all this happened. Just to prove a point., to SATAN. Well in the end of the story we are relieved to find that after all this job was eventually cured when he proved his faith (after a LONG period of time in which he lost everything including his friends; who thought the reason for his ailments was because he did not worship god when he did or something like that) and yay! he got a brand new family, farm and life that was twice as good as his first!
Seriously? This is supposed to be a happy ending? God let this man suffer to prove a point in a petty bet as as show of pride and let innocent people suffer in order to do it; andwe are supposed to be happy because his new life was twice as good in the end?
I don't know about you guys but to me all of the examples I have listed seem to do nothing but prove god is not merciful, kind and just but rather mean, hateful, arrogant and spiteful and unjust (he let innocent people die and suffer to prove a point; how is that just?). So please someone explain to me how this god is meant to be portrayed as perfect? It seems to me that...
A: God is not perfect
B: God is perfect but the stories being written by man are not accurate to gods true nature.
C: God doesn't exist and the reason he is flawed is because the people who created the idea of him were also flawed.
If I missed soemthing I would love it if someone would let me know; because all I know as of yet is if the god people claim to be perfect and the god who allows all this harm to be inflicted are supposed to be the same, then the world has a seriously scary view of perfection and justice.
yeah...sure...whatever :unsure13:
whatever....sure....yes. but you did use the correct emotican as your character representative as unsure. Shame that is since real is self contained, self maintaining, and self evident outside reciting generations of theory and theology that character matters.
that being a part of just being here now. God beyond the metaphor.
Wow, Onemale, that's the shortest, clearest thing you've every posted. I actually comprehend what you said, and I agree. We were always taught that the Hebrew God and the Christian God were one and the same. God changed and became forgiving/benevolant. Because of that he sent Jesus. In actuality he came as Jesus. It's very confusing to take that all in for those who aren't Christians. Yes, Christians believe in only one God, who can manifest himself as (God/Jesus/or Holy Ghost).
This is a question I have always wondered when thinking about any religions stories regardign their god. It is always said that god is a perfect being flawless, just, kind and whatever else the person who thinks of god that he/she would consider perfect. Yet in the stories found in texts such as the bible why is it god is always portrayed as angry and spiteful? He does not hesistate to inflict harm on others who disobey him, he smites cities and floods the world if he does not like where things are going and he crashes towns to the ground and confuses the languages of man because he did not like the fact they were united in one area. Yet at the same time people say the reason god does not cure the ailments of man (war, hunger, disease, etc) is because he does not want to interfere with us mortals whenever.
I recall one story I believe is of jewish origins; the story of job. In a nutshell god made a bet with satan that a man called job (who always prayed to him) would remain faithful to him regardless of the situation he was in (job at the time had a wonderfully comfortable life with a wife, kids, farm and a horde of animals) so in order to prove this job's wife and children were killed, his crops destroyed, his animals butchered and he was diseased with terrible conditions that cause great pain to him. Yeah, all this happened. Just to prove a point., to SATAN. Well in the end of the story we are relieved to find that after all this job was eventually cured when he proved his faith (after a LONG period of time in which he lost everything including his friends; who thought the reason for his ailments was because he did not worship god when he did or something like that) and yay! he got a brand new family, farm and life that was twice as good as his first!
Seriously? This is supposed to be a happy ending? God let this man suffer to prove a point in a petty bet as as show of pride and let innocent people suffer in order to do it; andwe are supposed to be happy because his new life was twice as good in the end?
I don't know about you guys but to me all of the examples I have listed seem to do nothing but prove god is not merciful, kind and just but rather mean, hateful, arrogant and spiteful and unjust (he let innocent people die and suffer to prove a point; how is that just?). So please someone explain to me how this god is meant to be portrayed as perfect? It seems to me that...
A: God is not perfect
B: God is perfect but the stories being written by man are not accurate to gods true nature.
C: God doesn't exist and the reason he is flawed is because the people who created the idea of him were also flawed.
If I missed soemthing I would love it if someone would let me know; because all I know as of yet is if the god people claim to be perfect and the god who allows all this harm to be inflicted are supposed to be the same, then the world has a seriously scary view of perfection and justice.