Lachean

The absence of belief = a belief is a blatant contradiction in terms.

No, no it isn't. For example, there are gods that some aboriginees believe in that I have never even heard of. I am ignorant of them, and yet I do not believe in them either.

My lack of belief in them is the same as your lack of belief in Zues or Apollo or any other god.

To suggest that the lack of belief in every god constitutes a religion, then you're religious about every god you don't believe in, and of those you've never heard of.

You're an atheist in respect to every god you don't believe in, would you say that the lack of belief in each of those gods constitutes a religion?

Religion is what you believe to be true, not what you don't believe.

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Reverend_Hellh0und

Nonsense. You believe there is no such thing as god. Why you resist this I can not fathom.



I believe in the metaphor of every god.

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Lachean

That would be believing in something based on evidence, which also does not constitute a religion.

Reverend_Hellh0und

so what I believe not to be true is not a belief?

Lachean

I "resist it" because I do not actively believe that there is no god, I do not have a belief in any god; These two things are very distinct.

I don't believe in a god /= I believe that X particular god does not exist.

I don't know what that means. Let me ask you directly, do you believe in Zues and that he is the King of all gods? If no, does your lack of belief in him constitute your religion? Or is your religion what you actually believe in?

Lachean

To believe something is false is /= to not having a belief in said god.

Because one can have no belief in all the things they've never heard of, and to believe that something is wrong requires knowledge about it.

If you actively believe that Zues does not exist, that is a faith based claim. For there is no evidence to support that belief, nor can one prove a negative logically.

Reverend_Hellh0und

so wait. You don't believe in any god but you don't believe there is no god either?




Yes. So is Odin.


I believe in the metaphor.

Reverend_Hellh0und

So zeus may exist, but you do not believe so, but that is not a belief?

Lachean

The former is true, the latter is a double negative. I do not believe that any particular god does not exist, for that is not required in a lack of belief in said god.

How is that a reply to what I said?

What metaphor?

No, it is not. If I said I believe that he does not exist, THAT would be a belief.

Reverend_Hellh0und

You asked me if I believed in Zeus. I relied yes, along with Odin. How is that not an answer to your question?


Hmm in Zeus's case? The mythos of zeus has many metaphors that can be applied to ones life. Is there an area in particular you would like for me to discuss?



So you are not an athiest as you have no opinion of the existence of any gods.