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Old 07-06-08, 10:24 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Can you show a Muslim country today that still has the Jizya tax? Iran? Pakistan? Saudi Arabia?
Its comming, its written in the Qu'ran. When the Mahdi returns and the Caliph rules the world in the name of Allah you kaffir will convert or be subjugated. Part of this subjugation includes payment of the jizya, then you will be protected as a second class citizen under the Caliphate.

This is what the Islamist believe is going to take place. All I got to say is "over my dead body"
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Old 07-06-08, 10:31 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Its comming, its written in the Qu'ran. When the Mahdi returns and the Caliph rules the world in the name of Allah you kaffir will convert or be subjugated. Part of this subjugation includes payment of the jizya, then you will be protected as a second class citizen under the Caliphate.

This is what the Islamist believe is going to take place. All I got to say is "over my dead body"
So you can not show a single Islamic country with a Jizyah tax? Not one? Come on I'll make it easy for you. I'll let you pick ANY country with ANY kind of Muslim influence. You have over 100 countries to pick from. Yet you can't show a single one with a Jizyah tax? Iran? Saudi Arabia? Sudan? No? Surely countries with so many fundamentalists would have a Jizyah tax but I guess if they didn't, it would put a huge hole in your conspiracy theory about Muslims bringing a Jizyah tax to unbelievers. Come on SgtRock. This is your moment to shine. Which heavy Muslim country has a Jizyah tax today?
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So you can not show a single Islamic country with a Jizyah tax? Not one? Come on I'll make it easy for you. I'll let you pick ANY country with ANY kind of Muslim influence. You have over 100 countries to pick from. Yet you can't show a single one with a Jizyah tax? Iran? Saudi Arabia? Sudan? No? Surely countries with so many fundamentalists would have a Jizyah tax but I guess if they didn't, it would put a huge hole in your conspiracy theory about Muslims bringing a Jizyah tax to unbelievers. Come on SgtRock. This is your moment to shine. Which heavy Muslim country has a Jizyah tax today?
Hamas has impossed al-jeziya on all non muslims living in the Palestinian territories.

Non muslims in Malaysia pay jizya tax.
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I dunno, I think teachers should be held up to the highest standards. Though in reality you are probably right. I don't think it should make it to three strikes here though.
Obviously no one's going to say "I think we should hold teachers to lower standards" but teachers are the ones everyone takes out their rage against the system on and that seriously limits the talent pool from which public school teachers can be chosen, which leads to having teachers who are stupid enough to think that there's nothing wrong about making kids pray to allah as a multiculturalism exercise. I'm just saying it's really easy to say "Look at this, this is ****ed up" and get an individual teacher fired because those who are actually responsible for making the decisions that got the system where it is don't give a damn about that teacher.

I think she should be reprimanded and the larger problem of forced teaching of "multiculturalism" should be focused upon. Focusing solely on the teacher is what enables the system that leads to having teachers like that to continue.


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Not only was it insesitive to the student, but also to Islam, also to the concepts of liberty. The teacher obviously has a lacking of "clue".


I know damn sure I would have gotten in trouble under this proposition .
Clearly she's not the brightest bulb in the box.
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Hamas has impossed al-jeziya on all non muslims living in the Palestinian territories.
Not a single country? I'll wait for it.

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Source? Dhimmi Watch?
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Not a single country? I'll wait for it.

Source? Dhimmi Watch?
You don't need to tax Dhimmis if they are illegal or subject to persecution or execution for [insert any reason here]. Its would be like giving a death row inmate a 5 year sentence after you executed them. Its just silly.

In Iran, Covert Christian Converts Live With Secrecy and Fear - US News and World Report

International Religious Freedom Report 2002: Saudi Arabia

Christianity in Pakistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Not a single country? I'll wait for it.



Source? Dhimmi Watch?

Jizyah in the modern world

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Jizyah in the modern world

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Exatcly who I thought you quoted. A blog(Dhimmi Watch). Good game.

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Exatcly who I thought you quoted. A blog(Dhimmi Watch). Good game.
Cited from the "blog" you so readily ignored...

FOXNews.com - Christians Fleeing Violence in Iraq - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News

Either way this doesn't prove that if Islam were to dominate the world it would impose practices used hundreds of years ago but it does make one wonder.
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A different perspective on the Jizyah

<i>Jizyah</i> and non-Muslim Minorities - IslamonLine.net - Ask The Scholar
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