Teaching religion in school. - Page 3

DarkWizard12 · 06-23-08, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 1069

No. Atheism is the absence of theism.
Theism is the belief in the existence of one or more divinities or deities.

Exactly....

Mach · 06-24-08, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkWizard12

*sigh* I can't buy that. Do I accept science? Yes. But I can't by that religion is harmful. Quite frankly, I'm sick of the arguement "look at the mid east, their religion is violent therefore, all religion is violent". ITs BS.

Notice you oppose it because you "are sick of it". That's an emotional response. The reality is that religion is bad because:
1. It's not true
2. It leaves a population ripe for abuse by a few in power who use religion to gain and hold such power. You don't need to look at Islam for this, you know that. You can look at your own specific religion and its roots. Look, do not ask us to tell you, then tell us you're sick of it. Be brave and read for yourself.

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Want more? I got 30 pages of notes on the subject.

30 pages of notes on atheism? DW, atheist is the term applied to someone who does not believe the made-up supernatural entities exist in reality.

If you have 30 pages of bogus notes like those you posted, then I submit that your time is being wasted on lies by your teacher/professor.

-Mach

Arch Enemy · 06-24-08, 02:15 PM

Teach religion in schools is fine by me, but, as how most subjects should be, it should be optional. The classes should stick to the literature, and not the interpretations of the teacher, or any one else for that matter. You want to inform, not try to convert. I also think that Mythology, and Polytheistic religions should be an option as well.

Jerry · 06-24-08, 02:24 PM

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Im an atheist however im in favour of teaching religion in school i was taught religion in school but religious education was learning about all religions though it was treated as about of a mickey mouse lesson.

Im not in favour of religion in the science class but religion is relevant in the world and its important to be able to view people through the lens of what they believe.

I would support a class on the role religion plays in sociaty in the manditory course.

Proteus · 06-24-08, 03:19 PM

Any education in world history would be woefully incomplete and inadequate if it did not delve seriously and objectively into the major world religions and their impact on shaping events, history and ultimately, the world that presently exists. Just remember however, that preaching does not equal teaching.

Cephus · 06-24-08, 04:06 PM

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*sigh* I can't buy that. Do I accept science? Yes. But I can't by that religion is harmful. Quite frankly, I'm sick of the arguement "look at the mid east, their religion is violent therefore, all religion is violent". ITs BS. Religion is a lie? HTF do I know that after what you said is just a lie? Religion doesn't cause violence, man does. When I'm mugged, do you really think I lay there and wander what religion the muggers where? You say religion is a lie to cause violence and divisiveness, no, your lies are what causes violence and divisiveness.

If the mugger runs up to you, beats you over the head and tells you that he's going to kill you for Allah's glory, then yes, you'd better be wondering what religion he follows because obviously, it's that religion that's causing his actions.

Anything that causes an individual to accept things about reality that are not demonstrably true, anything that causes people to think that imaginary friends are responsible for the wellbeing of the world, anything that leads people to live on their knees instead of actually doing things on their feet, is bad. If you can't see that, I'm sorry for you.

DarkWizard12 · 06-24-08, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cephus

If the mugger runs up to you, beats you over the head and tells you that he's going to kill you for Allah's glory, then yes, you'd better be wondering what religion he follows because obviously, it's that religion that's causing his actions.

lol, that reminds me of the stupidest phrase ever uttered from the mouth of rosie: "Guns kill people!"

We do know that guns don't kill people right? People kill people.

You could learn from my philosophy class:

"Is a hammer a tool, or a weapon? Is a box cutter a tool or a weapon? Is nuclear radiation the most clean and efficiant energy source, or the most destructive creation of mankind? The answer is neither. Just like religion, it can be a tool or weapon. Either way, the responsibilty on the one who uses it."

You deny this?

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Anything that causes an individual to accept things about reality that are not demonstrably true, anything that causes people to think that imaginary friends are responsible for the wellbeing of the world, anything that leads people to live on their knees instead of actually doing things on their feet, is bad. If you can't see that, I'm sorry for you.

Ah, I see. We might be going somewhere:

What religion tells people that its God or whomever, that is responsible for the well being of the world and not to do stuff on their feet? Which one? Buddhism?

Cephus · 06-24-08, 06:01 PM

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lol, that reminds me of the stupidest phrase ever uttered from the mouth of rosie: "Guns kill people!"

No, guns don't kill people, bullets do.

However, the availability of guns and other weapons in a situation where over-emotional people are likely to react violently can increase the body count. People pull the trigger but people with a gun or knife or axe in their hand are more dangerous, given the same situation, than people without.

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Ah, I see. We might be going somewhere:

What religion tells people that its God or whomever, that is responsible for the well being of the world and not to do stuff on their feet? Which one? Buddhism?

All of them. Christianity is very big on "God will provide". Just as the idiots at the Followers of Christ Church in Oregon, the people who have now killed *3* of their children by refusing medical treatment because they thought God would magically cure them.

jfuh · 06-24-08, 06:59 PM

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Exactly....

Which means it's not a belief. Unless you call non-belief in the boogieman a belief.

jfuh · 06-24-08, 07:02 PM

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All of them. Christianity is very big on "God will provide". Just as the idiots at the Followers of Christ Church in Oregon, the people who have now killed *3* of their children by refusing medical treatment because they thought God would magically cure them.

Any belief that advocates surrendering one's reasoning and rationality to blind faith is potentially dangerous.