Cleric: Feminists are 'Whores'... - Page 6

justone · 06-17-08, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 1069

It also says it's an abomination for men to trim the corners of their beards.
Or eat shellfish.
Or wear mixed fabrics.
Or plant their fields with two different kinds of seeds.

Do you conscientiously avoid polyester and prawn? Do you grow only one variety of plant in your yard? And just how long is your beard, anyway?

So, you cannot back up or confirm by any links your previous statement.
I have to dismiss it as invalid.

Now you want to distract one’s attention from the fact that your previous statement is invalid. Why anyone should think that your new statement has any validity?

I have my beard long enough to satisfy you.

Then, coming back to the subject:

I am all for women’s rights. I have been driven by this idea of making as many women as possible to get satisfied for a good part of my life. And still I always smile and try to please. I do not see how Pat is any different.

Oh, woman, I am all your slave and servant! Like in a Led Zeppelin song. So do you have any proof that Pat is any deifferent from me?

Mach · 06-18-08, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkWizard12

Sorry, the bible IS accurate
Yes, the bible is accurate. Christians are to love thy neighboor, love their enemies, and turn thy other cheek, and forgive all.

You're just cherry picking, that's why you keep referring to this section or that verse, and ignoring the others that contradict it.

In most cases the Bible is not accurate, simply because it's not teaching anything that is based on anything real. It cannot be validated as true or false, most people know this, even many religious people.

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Remember Mach, there is a difference between a religion that is perverted for violence, and religion that explicitly calls for violence. That is why radical islam is more dangerous than radical christianity.

What!? Religion is bad.
Religions used to incite violence are bad.
Religions that specifically call for violence are bad.

The bible specifically, in MANY places, shows us the Lords way is one of violence. The Bible you reference, is just as bad, admit it.

What about this love your neighbor ****? How about kiling women and children for made up books like the bible?

Bible Atrocities: Atrocities in the Bible

JS 6:21-27 With the Lord's approval, Joshua destroys the city of Jericho men, women, and children with the edge of the sword.

JS 7:19-26 Achan, his children and his cattle are stoned to death because Achan had taken a taboo thing.

JS 8:22-25 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly smites the people of Ai, killing 12,000 men and women, so that there were none who escaped.

JS 10:10-27 With the help of the Lord, Joshua utterly destroys the Gibeonites.

JS 10:28 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the people of Makkedah.

JS 10:30 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Libnahites.

JS 10:32-33 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the people of Lachish.

JS 10:34-35 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Eglonites.

JS 10:36-37 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Hebronites.

JS 10:38-39 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Debirites.

JS 10:40 (A summary statement.) "So Joshua defeated the whole land ...; he left none remaining, but destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord God of Israel commanded."

JS 11:6 The Lord orders horses to be hamstrung. (Exceedingly cruel.)

JS 11:8-15 "And the lord gave them into the hand of Israel, ...utterly destroying them; there was none left that breathed ...."

JS 11:20 "For it was the Lord's doing to harden their hearts that they should come against Israel in battle, in order that they should be utterly destroyed, and should receive no mercy but be exterminated, as the Lord commanded Moses."

Mach · 06-18-08, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mikhail

Well i gave the example of her saying she could understand why muslim women arent allowed to drive in saudi arabia because its dangerous to drive wearing burkas.

It's either sarcasm or the logical point that if women want to follow their religion and wear crap on their face, they may be CHOOSING to give up the right to drive.

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But this isnt about her im really talking about those who have taken up the opinion that of all cultures are equal but and it contradicting another belief that is universal in nature i mean if your a cultural relvitist you can use that to bypass this contradiction but im not and i dont really believe anyone is really.

what?

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As for the second point yes you can spread yourself too thin but there is also a question of scale it kinda reminds me of standing next someone collecting for cancer research and asking people for money to by myself some cough medicine.

No way.
I am allowing people to die of starvation RIGHT NOW because I wanted to buy a cup of coffee this morning. Scale indeed.

-Mach

mikhail · 06-19-08, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mach

It's either sarcasm or the logical point that if women want to follow their religion and wear crap on their face, they may be CHOOSING to give up the right to drive.

-Mach

well except its not choosing not to drive its being banned from driving thats where the conversation starts.Besides which the burka is more of cultural roots than religious.The point is its male domination of women and when you get a society dominated by men with a massive amount of young males the result is gonna be bad.

Voidwar · 06-19-08, 03:37 PM

The inability to talk about Islam without scapegoating Christianity is evidence of a small mind.

Small minds cannot stay on topic.

Small minds act like Timmy in the principal's office . . .

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Originally Posted by Voidwar

Look Timmy, Timmy is in the principal's office for what Timmy did, we are not here to talk about what Bobby did.

Pointing out the misbehavior of another is NO defense.

shuamort · 06-19-08, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Voidwar

The inability to talk about Islam without scapegoating Christianity is evidence of a small mind.

Small minds cannot stay on topic.

Small minds act like Timmy in the principal's office . . .

You drifted off topic to complain about others drifting off topic? Neat!

Voidwar · 06-19-08, 03:43 PM

Look at the thread title.

Cleric

Muslim or Christian ?

This was supposed to be about Islam, but tiny minds cannot stay on the topic of Islam, and have to resort to the bogus tactic of pointing out the misbehavior of another.

My post was an attempt to get back to the topic, and to point out the intellectual dishonesty of those who purposely derail the topic.

Mach · 06-19-08, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shuamort

You drifted off topic to complain about others drifting off topic? Neat!

Both that AND an Ad Hominem to boot. We got a 2-fer!

-Mach

Voidwar · 06-19-08, 03:52 PM

So now you two would rather complain about me than return to the topic at hand ? Anything to derail eh ?

There was no ad hominem, just statements of fact.

It is a small mind that cannot stay on a topic.

It is a small mind that gets distracted by Timmy's technique.

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Originally Posted by Voidwar

Look Timmy, Timmy is in the principal's office for what Timmy did, we are not here to talk about what Bobby did.

Pointing out the misbehavior of another is NO defense.

Mach · 06-19-08, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Voidwar

So now you two would rather complain about me than return to the topic at hand ? Anything to derail eh ?
There was no ad hominem, just statements of fact.
It is a small mind that cannot stay on a topic.
It is a small mind that gets distracted by Timmy's technique.

Are you for real?

Lookie here Voidwar, it was post #3, the author of the OP, Bhkad, that brought Christianity into it:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/1057646525-post3.html (Cleric: Feminists are 'Whores'...)

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Originally Posted by bhkad

Why would you say such a thing?
YouTube - Rosie O'Donnell is out of her mind!
"radical Christianity is just as threatening as radical Islam"
Or maybe Rosie and the audience of the View are just, really, really stupid.[/

I would laugh at the pie in your face, but really I just find it annoying. Apparently it's not the size of your mind that counts, it's how you used it...or didn't use it in your case.

So, now that I got you back on topic, did you want to discuss something?

-Mach