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Old 06-16-08, 11:18 PM   #41 (permalink)
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ROBERTSON LETTER ATTACKS FEMINISTS

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Please understand I need the full text of the letter, not quotes out of the context...
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How can we follow one teaching and close our eyes on another one?

It also says it's an abomination for men to trim the corners of their beards.
Or eat shellfish.
Or wear mixed fabrics.
Or plant their fields with two different kinds of seeds.

Do you conscientiously avoid polyester and prawn? Do you grow only one variety of plant in your yard? And just how long is your beard, anyway?
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Old 06-17-08, 02:20 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I'm still trying to find where it says murder all infidels...nope, I don't, sorry X[
Are you serious?

DT 20:13-14 "When the Lord delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the males .... As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves."

DT 20:16 "In the cities of the nations the Lord is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes."

DT 21:10-13 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites are allowed to take "beautiful women" from the enemy camp to be their captive wives. If, after sexual relations, the husband has "no delight" in his wife, he can simply let her go.
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Old 06-17-08, 02:24 PM   #44 (permalink)
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So, you believe Pat Robertson is a representation of the average american christian?
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You still aren't making any sense. The original response was:

"radical Christianity is just as threatening as radical Islam"

1069 - "Radical Christianity also believes feminists are "whores". And worse."

And you're brining up average american christians. No one is talking about average american christians, and frankly I don't even know why you'd bring it up or what it even really means. Any time you want to admit you were wrong, OK. Otherwise, I can't really change my position now can I.

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Old 06-17-08, 02:31 PM   #45 (permalink)
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One word: Beattitudes.
Thats the old law, judaism, sorry =)
The christian savior pretty much explains .
One word, fundamentalists.

Sorry, the bible is accurate as written, and not subject to your ethical attempts at explaining it away.

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Old 06-17-08, 02:39 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Nearly everyone is hypocritical about somethings people often dont think what they think they think.Im talking about people like germaine greer who has banged on about feminism in the west for years but ive seen her in no major way banged on about the repression of women in the middle east.
Let's keep it simple. If whoever, germaine greer, is opposing something ethically wrong, i.e. restrictions on women's rights, then do you support or reject their ethical position? Which is it?

What sort of reasoning are you using here. If I do something good (stop a criminal from beating an old lady), can you equate this to (germaine greer fighting for women's rights in that state/nation)?

If you can, then it follows that you would take issue with greer, as you write, because you don't believe she/he is banging on issues in the middle east. Well, then can you equate that to the criminal example above. Despite me stopping a criminal from beating an old lady, you believe I'm apparently not in the right because I'm not also stopping criminals an Chile? To me what you wrote is simply wrong.


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Old 06-17-08, 02:55 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Let's keep it simple. If whoever, germaine greer, is opposing something ethically wrong, i.e. restrictions on women's rights, then do you support or reject their ethical position? Which is it?

What sort of reasoning are you using here. If I do something good (stop a criminal from beating an old lady), can you equate this to (germaine greer fighting for women's rights in that state/nation)?

If you can, then it follows that you would take issue with greer, as you write, because you don't believe she/he is banging on issues in the middle east. Well, then can you equate that to the criminal example above. Despite me stopping a criminal from beating an old lady, you believe I'm apparently not in the right because I'm not also stopping criminals an Chile? To me what you wrote is simply wrong.


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The analogy is in correct what would be more accurate is your stopping a criminal beating an old lady but then saying if it happened in Chile it would be ok.
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Old 06-17-08, 03:18 PM   #48 (permalink)
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The analogy is in correct what would be more accurate is your stopping a criminal beating an old lady but then saying if it happened in Chile it would be ok.
OK. Now we're getting somewhere.

Does this "germaine greer" speak out in favor of middle east abuses of women? Otherwise, you shouldn't be judging based on nothing, right?

But even then, go just one step further into a position of power. If you have limited time and resources (you do), are you going to fight every case of injustice against women, or the ones nearest to your family and friends, where you can concentrate all your time and resources?

That's what the earlier post was about. Don't we typically fight the fights we can win, and don't we think that someone spreading themselves too think is a pretty bad move?

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Old 06-17-08, 03:34 PM   #49 (permalink)
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OK. Now we're getting somewhere.

Does this "germaine greer" speak out in favor of middle east abuses of women? Otherwise, you shouldn't be judging based on nothing, right?

But even then, go just one step further into a position of power. If you have limited time and resources (you do), are you going to fight every case of injustice against women, or the ones nearest to your family and friends, where you can concentrate all your time and resources?

That's what the earlier post was about. Don't we typically fight the fights we can win, and don't we think that someone spreading themselves too think is a pretty bad move?

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Well i gave the example of her saying she could understand why muslim women arent allowed to drive in saudi arabia because its dangerous to drive wearing burkas.She said this on an interview when the subject came up now she is ethier stupid which i doubt or is avoiding the subject which i think kind of contradicts what shes been about her whole life.

But this isnt about her im really talking about those who have taken up the opinion that of all cultures are equal but and it contradicting another belief that is universal in nature i mean if your a cultural relvitist you can use that to bypass this contradiction but im not and i dont really believe anyone is really.

As for the second point yes you can spread yourself too thin but there is also a question of scale it kinda reminds me of standing next someone collecting for cancer research and asking people for money to by myself some cough medicine.
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One word, fundamentalists.

Sorry, the bible is accurate as written, and not subject to your ethical attempts at explaining it away.

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Sorry, the bible IS accurate as written and your attempt to apply the old law to today's christians of the new laws(the new testament) has failed rather miserably. One may look no farther than the beattitudes.

Yes, the bible is accurate. Christians are to love thy neighboor, love their enemies, and turn thy other cheek, and forgive all. I think we can both agree, this is a very hatefull message that calls for the destruction of infidels

Remember Mach, there is a difference between a religion that is perverted for violence, and religion that explicitly calls for violence. That is why radical islam is more dangerous than radical christianity.

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