DarkWizard12

he is having a brain fart.

Simon W. Moon

The war on terror is serious business. But reading your posts to find info about it is like watching Reefer Madness to find out about drugs.

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bhkad

Your refer-ences are revealing.

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Mach

DW, that's incorrect.

Rosie was quoted as saying: "radical Christianity is just as threatening as radical Islam"

1069 supported that radical Christianity is indeed, some bad ****.

You then are arguing that 1069 should be looking at "average" christians. Which is irrelevant, because the quote was about RADICAL christianity.

That's why 1069's comment is correct in supporting Rosies claim, and your comment is irreleavnt.

-Mach

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Mach

Yet no one really believes that.

The rule of secular law in the U.S. has a lot more to fear from Christianity (average), and radical Christianity (less average), than from Islam. Always has.

How would any middle eastern country challenge the U.S. or its allies in a war of conquest? Someone must be watching too much Refer Madness.

We have christians actively lobbying to put religion into our secular government. They already got "in god we trust in" on our money. The already got under god into our pledge. Legal oaths over the bible. They routinely get it added to public schools (which is then summarily removed), they got into into our tax spend via faith programs ala Bush, they kill people routinely with misinformation about misinformation about life, health, sex, hell, god watching over them, snakes, they bomb clinics, and on and on.

Good lord man the Catholoic Pope came to our country with fanfare and pomp for his holy-hat, and what does he declare?:

Says the Pope on his visit to the U.S. this year:
"Perhaps America's brand of secularism poses a particular problem,"

That's right big-boy, religious folk orchestrate, and welcome, attacks on secularism, openly in the U.S. Maybe we should have carpet-bombed the pope and those silly enough to attend his speech if killing people who attack secularism is our goal in life?

And out of all of this you are telling us we should instead bomb poor, under-developed cultures simply beacuse their primary religion is Islam. Kind of like invading Iraq for nukes, I know.

-Mach

mikhail

Yes but this has been mainstreamed in Iran but there is alot of women in Iran trying to push for equal rights.The point is alot of western feminists dont wanna take on the tough fight.Its a bit hypocritical to act like your fearless in the face of trying to get equal pay for women in the west. But claim its none of your business when women are being stoned to death for adultary in the middle east.Thats not to say there are no women in the west sticking up for women in the middle east, but i remember reading germaine greer(big time feminist crusader) saying she understood why women in saudi arabia werent allowed to drive because it would be dangerous to drive wearing a burka and if that doesent miss the point i dont know what does.

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Mach

#1 irrelevant to the correct I made.

#2 Tough fight? You mean in another country? If what happens in every other country, by every other culture, reflects on everyone else, then by definition every single person that does X, is a hypocrit. That means, we are all hypocrits. Which makes the word hypocrit = human, and it no longer has ANY meaning.

If feminists in the U.S. OPPOSED women's rights in Islamic nations, THAT would be hypocritical. But on average I would suspect they don't, so your point is still bust IMO. Do you see it differently?

-Mach

mikhail

Nearly everyone is hypocritical about somethings people often dont think what they think they think.Im talking about people like germaine greer who has banged on about feminism in the west for years but ive seen her in no major way banged on about the repression of women in the middle east.If you feel strongly enough to protest against pay differences you should at least feel as strong about women being stoned to death.I see feminism as a universal idea you seem to be adhering to cultural relevitism.I feel the same way about human rights thats not to say all cultures have to be the same more that there are a certain fundamentals that should be pushed as universals.

Mach

This is flawed though. Who really believes that, I doubt you do.

So if the U.S. believes Iraq needs its regime changed, then according to your philosophy we should immediately, attack and overthrow every single country/nation in existence today that poses a threat to the U.S.

1. We should NOT take into account the manpower or funding shortfalls.
2. We should NOT take into account the fact that we'll lose and what that entials.

That's grade-A crazy.

Here, I will show you. you have 100 points of life/energy/resource to help a cause.

Here are the causes:
problemA : needs 3000 points
ProblemB: needs 1000 points
problem C: needs 10,000 points.

So, you are arguing that by spending 100 points on any one thing in an attempt to help the problem, they are to be faulted since they didn't help the other three? Since when did helping someone mean you are to be scorned? If you put 33, 33, 34 points in each, well, you didn't help as much as putting 100 so you still suck right? I mean, why didn't you put 100 points in problemA!!! Do you see why your argument appears to be completely off-base?

Maybe you should fight for what you choose to fight for. And applaud those fighting for things that should be fought for. Maybe then you'd be justified.

-Mach

Voidwar

Funny how no one wants to stay on the topic of Islam.

Everyone wants to bring up Chrisitainity, but not by itself, just as a weak response to threads about Islam.

But we have lots of threads about Islam, and not so many about Christianity.

I wonder if thats because these relativists are completely full of excrement, and Chrisitainity is nowhere near the problem that Islam is.