Rev.

I've seen a lot of sentiment, especially from critics, of what Christianity teaches or what it should be teaching.

So what is the Christian Message? Is it the same as Jesus' message? How well do Christians live up to it?

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Rev.

God doesn't send anyone to hell. We go to hell over His dead body.

MrFungus420

"We're right, you're wrong and you are going to die and suffer for all of eternity. Oh, and God loves you."

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"And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit."
- The Tick

niftydrifty

If that's honestly what you think the "Christian message" is, then it's no wonder you don't believe in it. I wouldn't believe in that nonsense either.

it sounds as if you're projecting your own contrarian ethic and/or misadventures onto others. "I'm right, you're wrong, you are going to die clinging to your belief in a placebo, oh, and dig my flying spaghetti monster analogy, while I sneer at you."


is there more to it than that? Is this an appropriate question? is it prudent to encapsulate a belief system as succinct "message?"

if so, then, yes, it must be the same as Jesus' message, since Christians are followers of Christ. the beatitudes are the heart of it all, imo.

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Felicity

"...love one another. As I have loved you, so you also should love one another."



...and the next night he layed down his life for all; even those who betrayed and hated him. No--I don't think we live up to it very well, but I also think we have a hard time understanding what authentic "love" is.

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MrFungus420

I will freely admit that my post was being snarky.

However, what is inaccurate about it?

niftydrifty

they were your claims. show us where Christians are instructed to behave that way or think those things, moreso than anything else.

justone

I completely agree with the first post by niftydrifty, and completely disagree with his treatment of my fiend MrFungus in his 2nd post, after Fungus clarified his sharky position with another sharky position.

Putting Fungus aside to grow where he grows, I am quite descending from the positions taking so far by my sisters Rev and Felicity, from the question imposed and the answer given (what a surprise to see me descending).

Even if the question and the answer are quite acceptable in a Church where the public still connects them to the rest of the NT, they may not satisfy the growing appetite of Fungus dwelling outside the Church.

If I was growing in damp and dark places like Fungus, I would rather see the answer as the golden rule expressed in a form a maxima. Moreover, then it has required Felicity to supply it with the additional and quite undefined comments. This is the teaching, sorry we don’t follow it, but we have vague excuses. Catholics always want to oversmart everyone. Now I am thinking if I should start arguing that we do follow, thus unwrapping the given capsule and making it all big and lengthy…

I don’t feel like doing this, because that would be just an appeasement to the growing appetites of my friend Fungus among other valuable reasons.

But there is one thought that came to me about encapsulation of the teaching. As usual it is crazy and it is over all possible extremes. And as usual, it absorbs me more than any other thoughts. ( May be because it is known that one has to go over all extreme measures if one wants to kill fungus.)

So, this is the challenge I am calling Rev and Felicity , and any other Christian to undertake in the regards to encapsulation.

You have only one word to express teachings of Christ and NT and Christianity.

You have 15 minutes after reading this challenge.

You have only 2 choices to post:

1. Your word____________

2. WTF?

Run or make a pick.

MY WORD IS:

And I don’t mind if yours is the same, just post it,

How would we do – should I go first, - or you would give it a shot first?

Lachean

The message of Christianity:

A 2000 year old zombie, who cares if you believe in him, will spare you an eternity of suffering if you eat his flesh and drink his blood. If you do not believe this, or adhere to a bronze age morality, you are the damned.

The moral precepts, such as the "golden rule" all predate the scriptures, and the book itself is obsolete when it comes to ethics, politics, economics, history or reality.

The message of Catholicism: If it feels good, stop! (thats for you Felicity )

The message of Christians: Well it used to be "convert or die you evil heathen" but these days they're a bit less fire and brimstone, and in some cases (niftydrifty) its a bit more nuanced and spiritual.

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Rev.

I accept your challenge.

My word is...Follow

Rev.

So then the message of Jesus is different than the message of Christians? What would that be?