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Current Mood: | Re: The New Militant Atheism-Changing the Face of America there isnt any militant atheism.Its the hurt feelings card being played over and over.
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Current Mood: | Re: The New Militant Atheism-Changing the Face of America Anything can become militant. Any cause can become confrontational and it's followers aggressive. To relate it in only the shallow definition of the way the word 'Militant' is nowaday's accepted, i.e. simply relating it to what's in the news now with Islam/Religion is disingenuous.
To degrade the posters premise on that is not at all different than the 'War on Christmas' attitude that is regularly degraded and pointed out as irrational. It's simply defending your ideology. To say othewise is hypocriticial.
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Originally Posted by VTA Actually the first response was to simply call him a liar. Go back and read it yourself. Even your first post did not ask for evidence, it was an accusation. It seems only Dark Wizard cared to touch on the topic itself in a civil manner. | Classic spin, instead of providing evidence of this "militant" atheism, all you've done here is play the hurt dove routine. Quote: |
Originally Posted by VTA Understand, this is in response to the ridiculous notion that his responses should be 'kind and honest'. In the face of such vitriol? Really? I read this board alot bud, and I can tell you the theme is not lost on me.
The realignment of prejudice today does not make our generation any more enlightened, it just makes it's focus of hate different. | Realignment of prejudice? please by all means explain what this new "prejudice" is about? |
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Originally Posted by VTA Anything can become militant. Any cause can become confrontational and it's followers aggressive. To relate it in only the shallow definition of the way the word 'Militant' is nowaday's accepted, i.e. simply relating it to what's in the news now with Islam/Religion is disingenuous. | Anything can become militant? So can non-violence become militant? You're grabbing at that which does not exists bud.
There is now followers of atheism - atheism is a non-belief in so as to think for yourself rather than being told and brainwashed to never question religious dogma. Quote: |
Originally Posted by VTA To degrade the posters premise on that is not at all different than the 'War on Christmas' attitude that is regularly degraded and pointed out as irrational. It's simply defending your ideology. To say othewise is hypocriticial. | War on Christmas? no such thing exists - it's the desperation of certain TV hosts to create something more than it actually is for the sake of ratings.
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05-01-08, 11:46 AM
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Awards: | Re: The New Militant Atheism-Changing the Face of America Hey--jfuh's right...."militant" is not the way to describe the uncivil/hypocritical/degrading attacks here--some people are just asshats!  Trust me--he KNOWS what he's talking about!
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Lean: Independent Gender:  Awards: | Re: The New Militant Atheism-Changing the Face of America If I thought atheisms only aim was to make sure that religion and government remained seperate entities, I wouldn't have a problem with atheism at all. But its clear that this is not simply the case. The derision, condesencion and arrogance they display towards those that do not think as they do is quite sickeneing to watch, IMO. I'm not saying religious people aren't capable of this attitude, they certainley are. But lets not pretend that atheists are actually better.
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Originally Posted by Felicity Hey--jfuh's right...."militant" is not the way to describe the uncivil/hypocritical/degrading attacks here--some people are just asshats!  Trust me--he KNOWS what he's talking about! | Quote:
Originally Posted by mikhail there isnt any militant atheism.Its the hurt feelings card being played over and over. | And when that doesn't work turn around and do the very thing you're accusing others of.
As much as you want to, this thread is not about me, you want to talk about asshat and make continued personal attacks go right down to the basement and spoil over your pitiful attacks there.
Otherwise address the topic.
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05-01-08, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by jfuh And when that doesn't work turn around and do the very thing you're accusing others of.
As much as you want to, this thread is not about me, you want to talk about asshat and make continued personal attacks go right down to the basement and spoil over your pitiful attacks there.
Otherwise address the topic.
Peace be to you | Hey!  What's your PROBLEM???? I said you are right and that you know what you're talking about!
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Originally Posted by WI Crippler If I thought atheisms only aim was to make sure that religion and government remained seperate entities, I wouldn't have a problem with atheism at all. | That's secularism, atheism has no aim whatsoever. Quote: |
Originally Posted by WI Crippler But its clear that this is not simply the case. The derision, condesencion and arrogance they display towards those that do not think as they do is quite sickeneing to watch, IMO. I'm not saying religious people aren't capable of this attitude, they certainley are. But lets not pretend that atheists are actually better. | Excuse me? I must be in another world here, what's the title of the thread? Militant atheism, it seems perfectly clear here of some individuals attempting to make a false claim without any justification and now when called on it becomes "derision, condescending and arrogance"? |
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Originally Posted by jfuh Excuse me? I must be in another world here, what's the title of the thread? Militant atheism, it seems perfectly clear here of some individuals attempting to make a false claim without any justification and now when called on it becomes "derision, condescending and arrogance"? | I was speaking in regards to the general attitudes of atheists towards people of faith. I already qualified that people of faith are subject to these same attitudes towards non believers as well, which is what this OP seems to be. The response to condesencion and derision from one side always seems to be met with condesencion and derision from the other side. Its fighting fire with fire. One side trying to impose its will on the other. |
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