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The Violent Oppression of Women in Islam

... and we all muslims we believe in One God .. prophet Mohamed and One Quran .. despite the differatiation on how we practice islam .. we are all muslims .. No matter how hard you will keep disguise in arab uniform to kill sunni and shia .. to spread chaos there .


You must be a joke .

Actually, your attempt was the joke and you can't get out of being busted for your sham, European. Embarrased much? A devout Muslim ,such as you are pretending to be, would write the Prophet Muhammed with a capital letter "P" every single time. But you have chosen to disrespect this fashion of belief more than once and often.

As far as the typical conspiracy that Arabs share amongst each other to ease the pain of self observance by declaring Muslim on Muslim slaughter is really disguised Americans or Jews meant to define sectarian difference, you are opting to deny the Islamic history as defined by Muslims. Is it an American prescription that pits Sunni against Shia in Iraq? How about in Sudan? I suppose that too was Arabs enforcing Sha'ria at an American request? Did the Soviet Union oppress and brutalize hundreds of millions of Muslims in accordance to an American mandate? And what about Palesintian struggles within factions? Must be an American in disguise, right? And the Lebanese response towards radical Palestinians must also be of American invention. The horrible restrictions placed upon women in the MIddle East under every Arab nation must also follow that secret American prescription that we preserve only for Muslims and not our own, right? And what about the ever present slaughterings of Muslims by Muslims in Syria? Either you are an indoctrinated Sunni Arab who approves of terror if inflicted by a Sunni upon non-Arabs and denies her own history, or a pretender that can't seem to keep in character from one post to the next. Did you even enlighten yourself as to the well recorded divisions in Islam before assuming the character?

So which is it? Proud Arab enslaved to the tribe and not to Islam? A Proud observance of a history against non-Arabs as recorded for all the world to review or ashamed of Islam's history and thusly the religion of Islam and therefore opts to scapegoat forces removed from Islam? Or proud European who holds jealousy and contempt towards those upstarts across the sea and only has enough to strength to portray it under the guise of a Muslim who can't keep in character?

One post, you declare female emancipation, but in another you criticize the freedoms women have in western culture. One post you are declaring your admiration towards non-Arabs, but in another you argue for the continued brutality and oppression of Sunni tyranny over Shi'ites and Kurds in Iraq. And of course Kuwaitis can rot under Saddam Hussein, right? You also accuse America of evil for arming him against the Iranians, but chastize America for taking him out. No harsh words for the rest of the world that wished to celebrate his brutality upon Muslims? I mean, if you truly care about your fellow Muslim than this would matter, wouldn't it? And if Muslims wish to be left alone to deal with thweir own problems, then where are the Muslim armies on a mission to stop Islamic terror in Sudan? Why did the Tali-Ban go unmolested before America had to do it for you? And why does Bin Laden get no attention by those Muslims who pretend that he perverts their religion?

Too uncomfortable to answer or too difficult to imagine how a Muslim would answer them?

ANYWAY pretender, once again.......You continually forget to capitalize the "P" in Prophet in reference to Muhammed, yet every once in a while you remember to capitalize pronouns in reference to Muhammed. Even lesser devout Muslims don't need to "remember" this. One may as well declare themselves a devout Christian while continually forgetting to capitalize Jesus. You are so far from any Muslim than I have ever encountered. At least "JPJaguar" gave it a whirl by arguing correctly before he was busted. You, however, have gone out of the way to avoid addressing the uncomfortable truths just to maintain the deceits. You have strayed wide from the uncomfortable points I have submitted, because you don't know how to argue them as a true Muslim.

Give my regards to the EU, pretender.
 
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And of course you are some evil seed from USA

...... or you think I m a fool ignorant american who dont know that there s another countries beside UNITED STATE OF AMERICA ???

........You must be a joke .

........So you were jealous that Saddam rape woman by his own so you decide to come and share the rape

...... You are such an evil nation .

.... You are the one who need improvement .. first in ethics ..
second ... in brain.

......You are freak ..........

Such retort from an individual who claims to be of a religion of peace. European, the above simpleton remarks are against our rules and could easily be taken as hate speech. Thus far, the only individual here who continues to behave like a child and in an trivial, insulting manner is you. This is your one chance to try to be civil. Not only do you insult your fellow Europeans by behaving in such a ridiculous manner, you also insult the Muslims you are pretending to be. They are victims of indoctrination, but your display goes far beyond even the most unintelligable in the region. Get to know this culture, before you pretend to be among them. Your roaming IP shows Egypt, but your over stereotyped behavior, forced grammatical mistakes, and complete lack of Islamic argument shows European pretender.

Get over it.
 
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Mysterious A Void

"Mysterious A Void"
Simply NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS WHAT KIND OF LEADER WOULD TAKE OVER US >>> IT IS OUR COUNTRIES >>

If you dont like how our leaders are .. stay in your country noo one told you to travel to middle east and stay under our regimes .. clear ???
Only one country deserves the option of arabism as government, arabia.

You are not an arab (egyptian) so your asserted membership in the genetic religion of arabism is illegitimate.

So you were jealous that Saddam rape woman by his own so you decide to come and share the rape and torture and abusing ..Any party or any group kill your troops are so welcome from my part
specially those who rape our woman and kill our children
Dont take it personal but imagine me raping your daughter .. how would you feel toward me ???
If that were reported, humanitarian watchdogs, the US public relations and US press would strangle hold the US military, in addition to it launching its own agressive military introspections.
The US does not claim women for concubines as spoils of war, unlike the doctrine of arabism.
You are full of crap.

You know what ??? I have talked to a good iraqi .. They said they were living more than well in Saddam Time .. and they havent seen this aggression and brutal but by those psycho americans troops ..
Baathists lost power.
Many have recognized that saddam was socially progressive over the majority of arabismal governments or leaders.
IMO, iraq was chosen for militarily strategic reasons, it has defensibile terrain and was the only place where an occupation force could be established.

Yeah they are freer now .. they work as prostitute to be able to feed themselves and their children ..
In spite of your wild accusations and radical preconceptions, noone here believes that such conflicts of self interest would be anything but sad.

thanks to the great america
Who do you think you are ??? you think you are GOD ???
You know what ?? what goes around comes around ... dont take God patient for granted ..
Physician, heal thyself!

Excuse me ?? what ??? you AID KUWAIT .. hahaaaaa best joke I have ever heard in my life .. Kuwait could AID your whole country ..
Kuwait gives aid to china from 47 yrs .. Kuwait gives most of the world Aid
this small tiny country is much more richer than the whole USA.
You are madd.
List of Countries by GDP
World 66,228,669
1 United States United States 13,020,861
28 Saudi Arabia 417,669
71 Kuwait 61,637

SAddam who been supplied by the US to attack iran ... You are such an evil nation.
Some efforts meet with approval, some do not.
Debates boldly continue.

I wish europeans people here to know how you think of them .. already they know how americans are arrogant and snobbish .
Europeans thank us for dragging arabism out of the archaic caves of antiquity into the light of day.
 
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OK. This seals it. Shery, you are no Muslim. You are yet another pretender who has been busted. Not only have you avoided my posts and uncomfortable questioning like the plague, but also ignored obvious calls for Islamic defenses that Muslims would take. Either you are uncomfortable with my questioning and points or you are merely confused about what to say. Either way, you are no Muslim. Since you seem to refuse to argue with me about Islam (perhaps you know better?), here is some evidence from just a single post....



They "hardly" believe? For an indivual that seems to have great difficulty in the English sentence structure or which words to use, the correct use of "hardly" would seem to be beyond your capacity here. Despite your attempts to fragment your pattern of delivery to appear like an individual outside the English culture, you failed.



Peeing and "stuff?" Again, this a term used by an individual inside the English (specifically American) culture. A Muslim in the Middle East would hardly use such a word in this manner. Especially one who seems to have trouble placing words accurately.




And here is the kicker....

He is "prophet"? I could consider the absence of a capital letter a simple mistake in typing once, but twice and a third? "and He is my prophet." You "admire him?"

The Prophet Muhammed is always capitalized. I don't know any Muslim author or writer that does not capitalize "Prophet" when discussing Muhammed or a pronoun when referring to Him as you did only once ("He"). This is a Muslim belief of respect as prescribed by Muslims. You seem to capitalize some words within your sentences (an accepted method to emphasize a word amongst Arabs), but failed to capitalize the words a Muslim would have been raised doing. You obvioulsy knew enough to ensure "He" was capitalized, but missing three other words that rated a capital letter in such a small portion of your words? Especially the word "prophet...twice?"

Very sloppy.


You have made a very poor attempt to pretend a Middle Eastern Muslim background. The question is why you would seek a Muslim identification just to bash America and Western culture? My guess is that you are of the Liberal socialist camp who dislikes the current policies and sees a white American or white European face in the mirror.




Also when they talk of the prophets they do a (pbuh) "peace be upon him" after
 
OK. This seals it. Shery, you are no Muslim. You are yet another pretender who has been busted. Not only have you avoided my posts and uncomfortable questioning like the plague, but also ignored obvious calls for Islamic defenses that Muslims would take. Either you are uncomfortable with my questioning and points or you are merely confused about what to say. Either way, you are no Muslim. Since you seem to refuse to argue with me about Islam (perhaps you know better?), here is some evidence from just a single post....

I m muslima 100% more than any muslim you have ever met in your whole life .
I cant read all post over here .. sometimes I just drop some post because you are not adding anythng new .. you are repeating yourself .. not only here but in all forums I debate at ... you are all western people speak the same
Typical western people who hates islam and muslims .


So why wasting my time and effort to read all posts against islam over here .. sometimes .. i dont reply because I havent notice that you were waiting for an answer ..




They "hardly" believe? For an indivual that seems to have great difficulty in the English sentence structure or which words to use, the correct use of "hardly" would seem to be beyond your capacity here. Despite your attempts to fragment your pattern of delivery to appear like an individual outside the English culture, you failed.


I have a broken English but I also I have a good vocabulary I been chatting for years and years now and I learn more words everyday from chatting rooms and forums like that beside I been to USA 3 times and the first time I spent more than 6 month there ...

So hardly not the word you that show that I m a native european or I can speak english fluently .


Beside believe whatever you like .. it shows agaiin your ability of understanding ... and how you build your concliusion

You know what ??? I been accused for not being muslima and not egyptian in alll forums and board I go ... simply because I sound different ...

Thank you i consider that as a compliment ... I really feel special day after day ;)

Because people as you ... and because that I hardly can make a right sentence in English ... and yet I been accused for being british or american or european as you are ssaying lol .. that crack me up ..

That shows what kind of IQ I m dealing with ...

I still dont understand why my world couldnt defeat your world .. while your world IQ to me is beyond Zero .



Peeing and "stuff?" Again, this a term used by an individual inside the English (specifically American) culture. A Muslim in the Middle East would hardly use such a word in this manner. Especially one who seems to have trouble placing words accurately.

Again I been in USA .. and I chat more than I eat ... so defenitely I would learn many slangs and many words used by your world .




And here is the kicker....

He is "prophet"? I could consider the absence of a capital letter a simple mistake in typing once, but twice and a third? "and He is my prophet." You "admire him?"

The Prophet Muhammed is always capitalized. I don't know any Muslim author or writer that does not capitalize "Prophet" when discussing Muhammed or a pronoun when referring to Him as you did only once ("He"). This is a Muslim belief of respect as prescribed by Muslims. You seem to capitalize some words within your sentences (an accepted method to emphasize a word amongst Arabs), but failed to capitalize the words a Muslim would have been raised doing. You obvioulsy knew enough to ensure "He" was capitalized, but missing three other words that rated a capital letter in such a small portion of your words? Especially the word "prophet...twice?"

Very sloppy.


I have never wrote prophet with a capital P .. and The mistake I have done is I wrote HE with a capital H .. because prophet mohamed is he not HE ..
The only He I believe in .. He is one God .. the God who sent all this prophets from Ibrahim to Mohamed ..



and I dont say in forums peace upon him ..


You have made a very poor attempt to pretend a Middle Eastern Muslim background. The question is why you would seek a Muslim identification just to bash America and Western culture? My guess is that you are of the Liberal socialist camp who dislikes the current policies and sees a white American or white European face in the mirror.


and You have made a very poor evidence to prove that I m not muslima and not egyptian ... and egyptian are not arab .. we are african yes
but we and many here in Egypt we consider ourselves arab .. we speak arabic .. and we will remain arab with our arab neighbors countries ..

Same blood .. beliefs .. and language regardless the differatiation in accent ..


The sedition between Shia and Sunna .. only increased when USA enter Iraq ..
and now the Smart muslims start to realize your game .. and Only the weak stupid muslims will fall in your trap ...

and frankly we dont need those stupid weak muslims .
 
Shery, who are the weak stupid Muslims?
 
Not suprising you agree with "shery"....
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I agreed with a particular post. Anyone who claims I am a "defender" of Islam is being deliberately ignorant. I defend no religion...quite the contrary. But all this deliberate focus on the abuse of women in backwards Islamic areas is, IMO, hyped by right wing think tanks and NeoCon wonks who want to demonize Islam to create an "enemy" for our war profiteers to fight. The hype is encouraging this kind of fundamentalism just as invading Iraq brought in Al Quaeda where it did not previously exist. Islamophobes turn a blind eye to the vast majority of peaceful Muslims in advanced nations. How many of these hate-filled propagandists for Exxon and Bush et al have actually lived in a Muslim country (as a visitor, not an soldier or mercenary) among average people? Religion is the mind virus that may well destroy us.

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The only vice that can not be forgiven is hypocrisy:
William Hazlitt
 
Sad joe, just sad. If the US treated its women like the most foward Islamic county treats theres you would have some dumb picture and another inane comment on how evil the US is...

Pathetic.
 
and Thankx for your media to spot on those things so some1 can move his a$$ in our countries and stop it ... but still I wont be greatfull for you
because I know you are not doing it because you really care about our woman but simply you just want to attack islam .. that is all your aims

Your aims is bad ....
Not quite, Shery. We are not attacking Islam, but the world has no room for a belief system that encourages the killing of innocents to score political points.

When Benazir Bhutto's convoy was attacked on her return to Pakistan, she exclaimed afterward that "These people are not Muslims! Muslims do not attack women! Muslims do not kill the innocent!" Was she right? Yet these vermin who defile Islam call themselves Muslims - so what are we to call them?
I based my information mainly on Quran .. and according to Quran .. There s no verses mentioned stoning to death ...

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The only problem that we may face in our islamic world is the people who interpret Quran are MEN and Men usualy likes to reform things to fit their own life style

As in Saudia ... I dont consider them a real muslims .. as God didnt say to yell at woman or to beat her at the street if she is not covering her face

Many things are more a culture than islam ...

The message or the image you got from there are not the real message of Prophet Mohamed and not the real Quran ... Of course they are doing a right things too .. i cant tell that Saudi are totally wrong .. but when it came to woman ... They failed to treat her as Prophet Mohamed said ..

Rape cases should be handle it this way .. the woman she be treated as a victim and The rapist should be stoned or even crusified or cut their hand and legs and leave them in public till they die ..

God said to cut the thieves hands .. and those didnt only steal something do not belong to them but they destroyed a woman life ... and she will never be able to live normally as before again ..
I have Muslim friends in this country that say the same thing as you have said, and they are welcome to live next door to me any time. My problem is with those who defile Islam by using it to defend the social cesspool that they call a culture.

There are evil beings in this world who fly airplanes into civilian buildings, and who deliberately target school children and civilian trains to spread terror. They are less than human, and must be destroyed like the noxious insects they are. To Islam's great shame, these evil beings claim to be Muslims defending Islam and they whine like whipped dogs that the retribution directed at them is really persecution of Islam.

Muslims as any other human being ... They have good and bad people ... it is not about religion .. it is about the nature of human ....
If you are not good ..then no religion will really do much with you ...
True enough. According to the legend, there was a time when the people of the Middle East were not behaving well and a great flood was sent to clear things out for a fresh start. It does not seem to be working well, and the legend promises a fire next time. Perhaps that time is getting closer?
 
A word here. The legal marriageable age is very often a moot point in the Middle East and North Africa. Many marriages are arranged by a girl's father or her appointed male guardian. The decisive factor here is usually not happiness, but rather the agreed upon bride price.

Not only in the Middle East and North Africa though. In South East Asia girls are often purchased into marriages and then are often resold to prostitution rings if they don't live up to expectations. The attack on Muslim countries and the semi factual laws presented by SgtRock is obviously a blind one. Exactly the kind that one would expect from people who are not interested in honesty. I mean obviously they would not admit that child marriages/abuse/slavery is a global problem and not one that resides predominately in the Middle East. Hundreds(dare I say thousands?) of young brides/boys are purchased by pedophiles in Asia ever year. Usually for what end up being one night stands. In Brazil alone one could find hundreds of prostitute children in the streets. But why doesn't the poster mention any of this? Because as I said, they are not interested in honesty. Just blindly attacking Islam. I mean obviously child abuse is only bad when Muslims do it. Never you mind that non-Muslim societies ignore child abuse just as much as Muslim societies do.

I submit to you the half-truth that I replied to.

SgtRock said:
FACT: In Iran the legal age for marrage is 9 years old. This is the opening statment in this video. are you disputing this?

Now why would the person who made this statement and the one who parroted it keep out the fact that in Iran like in all countries with any kind of marriage laws minors need the approval of parents? Even in the U.S. if a 14 year old wanted to get married they'd need approval from their parents. Matter of fact I can't think of a single civilized country that would allow underage people to get married without the approval of their parents. It's a well crafted shock-jock statement. The fact is that a 9 year old in Iran can not simply get married because she happened to find a husband. She can get married if the parents approve. No different then say in America. Where minors can only get married with the approval of their parents. Be they 5 or 15.
 
Not only in the Middle East and North Africa though. In South East Asia girls are often purchased into marriages and then are often resold to prostitution rings if they don't live up to expectations. The attack on Muslim countries and the semi factual laws presented by SgtRock is obviously a blind one. Exactly the kind that one would expect from people who are not interested in honesty. I mean obviously they would not admit that child marriages/abuse/slavery is a global problem and not one that resides predominately in the Middle East. Hundreds(dare I say thousands?) of young brides/boys are purchased by pedophiles in Asia ever year. Usually for what end up being one night stands. In Brazil alone one could find hundreds of prostitute children in the streets. But why doesn't the poster mention any of this? Because as I said, they are not interested in honesty. Just blindly attacking Islam. I mean obviously child abuse is only bad when Muslims do it. Never you mind that non-Muslim societies ignore child abuse just as much as Muslim societies do.
You are correct that prostitution, child slavery, et al are common in many countries. But how many of these countries openly point to their religion as justification for the practices as the Sharia countries do?
 
Not only in the Middle East and North Africa though. In South East Asia girls are often purchased into marriages and then are often resold to prostitution rings if they don't live up to expectations. The attack on Muslim countries and the semi factual laws presented by SgtRock is obviously a blind one. Exactly the kind that one would expect from people who are not interested in honesty. I mean obviously they would not admit that child marriages/abuse/slavery is a global problem and not one that resides predominately in the Middle East.

Sure I admit child marriages/abuse/slavery is a global problem. You are free to start a thread about this worldwide issue. If you do let me know Im sure we will agree on much. My thread is about the violent oppression of women in Islam

Hundreds(dare I say thousands?) of young brides/boys are purchased by pedophiles in Asia ever year. Usually for what end up being one night stands. In Brazil alone one could find hundreds of prostitute children in the streets. But why doesn't the poster mention any of this? Because as I said, they are not interested in honesty. Just blindly attacking Islam. I mean obviously child abuse is only bad when Muslims do it. Never you mind that non-Muslim societies ignore child abuse just as much as Muslim societies do.

As I said, I agree child prostitution is a terrible problem throughout the world and those that are involved in it are animals and should be brought to justice.
I never said only muslims do it, and again my thread is about the Violent Oppression of Women in Islam.

Now why would the person who made this statement and the one who parroted it keep out the fact that in Iran like in all countries with any kind of marriage laws minors need the approval of parents? Even in the U.S. if a 14 year old wanted (key word wanted not forced)to get married they'd need approval from their parents. Matter of fact I can't think of a single civilized country that would allow underage people to get married without the approval of their parents. It's a well crafted shock-jock statement. The fact is that a 9 year old in Iran can not simply get married because she happened to find a husband. She can get married if the parents approve. No different then say in America. Where minors can only get married with the approval of their parents. Be they 5 or 15.

What happened to the mormon leader Warren Jeffs for arranging marriges of young women to old men? In Iran girls as young as 9 year olds are married off to old pervert pedophiles. Even if it is with the approval of the childs parrents does that make it right. I don't think so.

Look Hatuey, I am not telling a half truth. The whole truth is that women in Islamic countries are oppressed and are treated badly under Shariah (Islamic) Law. There word is woth half that of a mans word and they are Punished for being raped, they are kept down by men and are often murdered by family members in honor killings for various reasons. Do you dispute anything I just said? Keep in mind the subject of this thread before you answer that question.
 
You are correct that prostitution, child slavery, et al are common in many countries. But how many of these countries openly point to their religion as justification for the practices as the Sharia countries do?

I don't really know which one is worse. The society that makes up an excuse to justify the problem. Or the one who ignores the problem altogether.
 
Sure I admit child marriages/abuse/slavery is a global problem. You are free to start a thread about this worldwide issue. If you do let me know Im sure we will agree on much. My thread is about the violent oppression of women in Islam

Which you have been dishonest about. I'm still waiting for your reply on the fake footage placed by Horowitz.

As I said, I agree child prostitution is a terrible problem throughout the world and those that are involved in it are animals and should be brought to justice.
I never said only muslims do it, and again my thread is about the Violent Oppression of Women in Islam.

ROFL - So why bring up child abuse? Which is a global problem. Not a Muslim one.

Look Hatuey, I am not telling a half truth.

You claimed in Iran it's legal for a 9 year old to get married. The fact is that children under 13 need parental permission. Just like in America where children under a certain age(ranging from 15 to 18) need parental permission)

The whole truth is that women in Islamic countries are oppressed and are treated badly under Shariah (Islamic) Law. There word is woth half that of a mans word and they are Punished for being raped, they are kept down by men and are often murdered by family members in honor killings for various reasons. Do you dispute anything I just said? Keep in mind the subject of this thread before you answer that question.

I don't dispute that it happens. I dispute your dishonest allegations and half baked representations of "facts" which are nothing more then blind attacks on an entire religion.
 
What happened to the mormon leader Warren Jeffs for arranging marriges of young women to old men?

Jeff wasn't sent to jail for arranging marriages. He was sent for being an accomplice to rape.

Warren Jeffs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jeffs' trial ran from September 11 to September 25, 2007. The trial was held in St. George, Utah, with judge James L. Shumate presiding. Jeffs was housed in Utah's Purgatory Correctional Facility in solitary confinement for the duration. At the culmination of the trial, Jeffs was found guilty of two counts of being an accomplice to rape[38] on September 25, 2007. Following his Utah trial, it is expected that Jeffs will also be tried in Arizona.[39]

In Iran girls as young as 9 year olds are married off to old pervert pedophiles.

Which is a world wide issue. Not a Muslim one.

Even if it is with the approval of the childs parrents does that make it right. I don't think so.

Nope. It does not. But you've yet to explain your emphasis on Iran when this is not just happening in this country. Happens every day in both Muslims and non-Muslim countries.
 
I don't really know which one is worse. The society that makes up an excuse to justify the problem. Or the one who ignores the problem altogether.
IMO the worse is the society which claims that such abuse is acceptable under their perverted religious doctrine. Civilized countries make such abuse illegal, although I concede that enforcement is not all it should be. Even here in the US, proper enforcement of the law is often frustrated by the ACLU.
 
shhh .. I cant tell you that ... ;)

Because you don't know how to answer it accurately. Here, I'll help you pretender...

If you were an Arab, you would despise the Shia for their decision to practice heresy within Islam and for turning their backs on the Arab tribe. Further, you would look down upon Palestinians and see them as the refuse of Islam. Kurds are much the same. Pakistanis are converters and aren't "real" Muslims. And those back stabbing Turks abolished the caliphate.....and were also mere converts. Black Africans were an object of slavery and also mere converts. And of course, Jews are only tolerated as long as they don't govern. America is the needed enemy indoctrinated to all in order to not only maintain allegiance to the Wahhabist Arab tribe for any Khomeini like rebellions, but also to relieve cultural responsibility and focus outward instead of inward.

If you were African, you would have an appreciation for the West, because of the monopoly of good will that only comes from our side of the world. Very little aid comes from any Arab neighbor or Asia. China has recently began a campaign of good will here and there, but this is solely based on resources. Depending on where you would be, you might hate the French and other European countries. Sudanese Arabs have slaughtered non-Arab Africans and black Christians without any aid from any Muslim country, so you would have contempt towards Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Syria, etc... But according to you, you love your Egypt don't you?

If you were Iranian, you would absolutely hate the Turks and the Sunni for their oppression and brutality upon the Shia and the Kurd. Jews are tolerated as long as they don't govern and Palestinians are mere tools to see an end. And of course, America was dubbed the "Great Satan" by Khomeini as the needed enemy that not only saw a recruitment of loyalty to the Shia revival and against the Arab establishment, but also as a concrete target of hate for modernism (the enemy of mainstream fundamental Islam).


So, we pretty much come down to exactly what I stated to you before about your ID. You are either an Arab loyalist enslaved to the tribe rather than Islam (which you deny), or a European that has failed miserably to fool people (which you deny). But seeing as how you couldn't even answer the question of who the "weak stupid Muslims" were you were referring to, you are not Muslim. Certainly, after a life of being a Muslim, one would know exactly who he/she is supposed to hate. Indonesian Muslims hate Indonesian Christians. Indian Muslims hate the Hindu. Even European Muslims in the former Yugoslavia and Phillipino Muslims on the Island know who they are supposed to hate. And of course, even the tribes within the sects like in Pakistan know who to hate. Perhaps you can use my above lesson to fool people on those other debate boards you stated that you frequent.



****Of course, these are very general descriptions of the average individual, but such sentiments are far more populationally present than people think. "White men can't jump" is a sterotype right? Some sterotypes exist for a reason. I ain't hitting any rims.
 
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Because you don't know how to answer it accurately. Here, I'll help you pretender...


OK let me clarify many things to you Mr between lines reader ..
Because your information is gained from what you hear and read on your media .. that is why you dont know what you are talking about ...


If you were an Arab, you would despise the Shia for their decision to practice heresy within Islam and for turning their backs on the Arab tribe. Further, you would look down upon Palestinians and see them as the refuse of Islam. Kurds are much the same. Pakistanis are converters and aren't "real" Muslims. And those back stabbing Turks abolished the caliphate.....and were also mere converts. Black Africans were an object of slavery and also mere converts. And of course, Jews are only tolerated as long as they don't govern. America is the needed enemy indoctrinated to all in order to not only maintain allegiance to the Wahhabist Arab tribe for any Khomeini like rebellions, but also to relieve cultural responsibility and focus outward instead of inward.


I dont like to call myself Sunna .. but as an egyptian .. i considered it as a Sunna .. but I d rather call myself muslima ...

I dont despite Shia and I admire hizbullah and Iran and I m their best friend ... and I have many friends shia all over the world ...

Nothing from what u said here i would buy it ... Who told you that I would think that palestinian are not true muslim .. I dont like kurds for some reason .. but I dont like that turks kills them and i hate when kurds conspire against turks for americans .. and against iraqi for americans

Anyway you blablaaaa with your dellusion I wont clarify to you anything
Lets keep the western world do some effort to realize the truth ..

I still Dont understand how come my world didnt defeat your world with this IQ ..



If you were African, you would have an appreciation for the West, because of the monopoly of good will that only comes from our side of the world. Very little aid comes from any Arab neighbor or Asia. China has recently began a campaign of good will here and there, but this is solely based on resources. Depending on where you would be, you might hate the French and other European countries. Sudanese Arabs have slaughtered non-Arab Africans and black Christians without any aid from any Muslim country, so you would have contempt towards Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Syria, etc... But according to you, you love your Egypt don't you?

None of your business if I love Egypt or no ..
beside My mom grandpa from kashmir .. and My father and all his family from Egypt ..

So why would I hate my country ??? unless if I m brainless ?



If you were Iranian, you would absolutely hate the Turks and the Sunni for their oppression and brutality upon the Shia and the Kurd. Jews are tolerated as long as they don't govern and Palestinians are mere tools to see an end. And of course, America was dubbed the "Great Satan" by Khomeini as the needed enemy that not only saw a recruitment of loyalty to the Shia revival and against the Arab establishment, but also as a concrete target of hate for modernism (the enemy of mainstream fundamental Islam).

AS I said Iranian are my best friends .. and I havent seen anyone of them hates me .. though I m more than welcome to go to iran anytime I like .




So, we pretty much come down to exactly what I stated to you before about your ID. You are either an Arab loyalist enslaved to the tribe rather than Islam (which you deny), or a European that has failed miserably to fool people (which you deny). But seeing as how you couldn't even answer the question of who the "weak stupid Muslims" were you were referring to, you are not Muslim. Certainly, after a life of being a Muslim, one would know exactly who he/she is supposed to hate. Indonesian Muslims hate Indonesian Christians. Indian Muslims hate the Hindu. Even European Muslims in the former Yugoslavia and Phillipino Muslims on the Island know who they are supposed to hate. And of course, even the tribes within the sects like in Pakistan know who to hate. Perhaps you can use my above lesson to fool people on those other debate boards you stated that you frequent.


Why should I answer who the weak muslims in my opinion ?? I like to keep that to myself .. Why would I teach you more about us ???

Do some effort ....your words would not tempting me to tell you everything .. simply I m not that Idiot you are looking for ... and consider me pretender better than being an idiot..




****Of course, these are very general descriptions of the average individual, but such sentiments are far more populationally present than people think. "White men can't jump" is a sterotype right? Some sterotypes exist for a reason. I ain't hitting any rims.


Bla Bla .... believe what yu want ... that wont change nothing from reality
Im Egyptian female .. from Cairo .. and tell you what .. I m very amazed that you believed that I m a woman .. most of the forums and boards they dont believe evn that I m woman .. they always think that I m a man ..


Still wondering how come my world didnt defeat your world yet !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I still Dont understand how come my world didnt defeat your world with this IQ ..
It must be terribly frustrating for you not to understand the obvious... :rofl

Bla Bla .... believe what yu want ... that wont change nothing from reality
Im Egyptian female .. from Cairo .. and tell you what .. I m very amazed that you believed that I m a woman .. most of the forums and boards they dont believe evn that I m woman .. they always think that I m a man ..
Let not your heart be troubled. I don't think you are a man. :mrgreen:
 
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