• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!
  • Welcome to our archives. No new posts are allowed here.

The only religion in the world that impose death penalty for blasphemy of prophet

dolphinocean

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Dec 22, 2009
Messages
4,138
Reaction score
807
Location
Volunteer State
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Other
A Christian mom has been sentenced to death in Pakistan for her faith.Asia Bibi was falsely accused of “blasphemy” – speaking against the prophet Muhammad.
Now this wife and mother of five will hang for her Christian faith.
She would be the first woman executed under Pakistan’s Shariah blasphemy law.
This is the ultimate human rights violation.
We’re mobilizing our international affiliate – the European Centre for Law and Justice – and its partner in Pakistan to stop this atrocity.

We aren't dealing with islamic terrorists here. We are told ad nauseam that those islamic jihadists had hijacked and twisted the teaching of islam but this is the justice system of a legitimate government in an islamic country we are dealing with here. Obviously, no matter how educated these judges and govt officials are, when it comes to islam, it is the teaching of violence against infidels that carries the day. By killing they thought they could achieve peace.

Is this what defenders of islam mean when they repeatedly chant: "islam is a relgion of peace" and we are racists, bigots and islamophobes when we disagree and speak out to expose the truth?

Add your name to the letter to the government of Pakistan demanding Asia Bibi’s freedom. Hurry, not much time left.

https://aclj.org/persecuted-church/save-christian-mom-asia-bibi-from-execution?utm_medium=Email&utm_source=ExactTarget&utm_campaign=d-10082016_top-O_seg-NL_typ-NL
 
Last edited:
We aren't dealing with islamic terrorists here. We are told ad nauseam that those islamic jihadists had hijacked and twisted the teaching of islam but this is the justice system of a legitimate government in an islamic country we are dealing with here. Obviously, no matter how educated these judges and govt officials are, when it comes to islam, it is the teaching of violence against infidels that carries the day. By killing they thought they could achieve peace.

Is this what defenders of islam mean when they repeatedly chant: "islam is a relgion of peace" and we are racists, bigots and islamophobes when we disagree and speak out to expose the truth?

Add your name to the letter to the government of Pakistan demanding Asia Bibi’s freedom. Hurry, not much time left.

https://aclj.org/persecuted-church/save-christian-mom-asia-bibi-from-execution?utm_medium=Email&utm_source=ExactTarget&utm_campaign=d-10082016_top-O_seg-NL_typ-NL

We used to burn heretics too.
 
We used to burn heretics too.

Not for hundreds of years.

Apostasy is today punishable by death in numerous Islamic countries, where if the government does not act fast enough, vigilantes will.

Ibid blasphemy.

Stop being ridiculous.
 
Christians have drowned a few witches in the last 200 years or so but they've generally been easing off on such entertainment.

Christians have killed abortionists in the last thirty years or so.

Let's keep in mind that Muslim religion came along about 600 years after Christianity, so they can quite legitimately be 600 years behind the Christians in ending the more horrific religious recreations.

None of the religions can claim totally honorable behavior.......the Jews are well known for their atrocities in Palestine......which continue to this day with the assistance of Christians.
 
Theocracies have no place in the modern era.
 
Not for hundreds of years.

Apostasy is today punishable by death in numerous Islamic countries, where if the government does not act fast enough, vigilantes will.

Ibid blasphemy.

Stop being ridiculous.

We didn't burn Jews in the US, but we did practice euthanasia until it fell out of fashion because of the Germans' having overdone it so spectacularly.
 
Do you see those words "used to". Enough said.

Not really. I am not saying that they do not define themselves a our enemies by doing so. But it is quite a normal thing to exorcise individuals that do not look or act the the way the society expects at the time. We punish people that won't bake cakes for homosexual marriage ceremonies for conscientious reasons. This is not to stone them, but it is ruinous. Similarly, we have introduced a major industry to kill humans on demand. We do so by redefining a class of humans to be non-persons and as only persons hold the category of rights concerned, it is legal.
 
Not really. I am not saying that they do not define themselves a our enemies by doing so. But it is quite a normal thing to exorcise individuals that do not look or act the the way the society expects at the time. We punish people that won't bake cakes for homosexual marriage ceremonies for conscientious reasons. This is not to stone them, but it is ruinous. Similarly, we have introduced a major industry to kill humans on demand. We do so by redefining a class of humans to be non-persons and as only persons hold the category of rights concerned, it is legal.

Nothing is quite as ruinous as death. Why is it so hard to accept the facts about Islam?
 
Nothing is quite as ruinous as death. Why is it so hard to accept the facts about Islam?

Like Christianity the best way to neuter the religion is to corrupt it with wine, women and song.
 
We didn't burn Jews in the US, but we did practice euthanasia until it fell out of fashion because of the Germans' having overdone it so spectacularly.

Please present evidence of this.
 
Like Christianity the best way to neuter the religion is to corrupt it with wine, women and song.

That doesn't happen until after a proper death. Heaven in the Qur'an is best describe as being a brothel.
 
We aren't dealing with islamic terrorists here. We are told ad nauseam that those islamic jihadists had hijacked and twisted the teaching of islam but this is the justice system of a legitimate government in an islamic country we are dealing with here. Obviously, no matter how educated these judges and govt officials are, when it comes to islam, it is the teaching of violence against infidels that carries the day. By killing they thought they could achieve peace.

Is this what defenders of islam mean when they repeatedly chant: "islam is a relgion of peace" and we are racists, bigots and islamophobes when we disagree and speak out to expose the truth?

Add your name to the letter to the government of Pakistan demanding Asia Bibi’s freedom. Hurry, not much time left.

https://aclj.org/persecuted-church/save-christian-mom-asia-bibi-from-execution?utm_medium=Email&utm_source=ExactTarget&utm_campaign=d-10082016_top-O_seg-NL_typ-NL

Qoran does not agree with it :shrug:
 
We didn't burn Jews in the US, but we did practice euthanasia until it fell out of fashion because of the Germans' having overdone it so spectacularly.

I do not believe euthanasia was ever practiced to any significant extent in the US. In fact I think it has always been illegal.

Without looking anything up I am familiar with the name of one Aubrey Strode of the early 1900s. I think he recommended sterilization, but may also have recommended euthanasia. He did not get very far.
 
Nothing is quite as ruinous as death. Why is it so hard to accept the facts about Islam?

Ruinous.
Once you've let capital punishment in the door, you're just quibbling about degrees. You know that joke, where the punchline is, "We've already established that. Now we're just arguing about the price."
Saudi Arabia beheads more people than all the Islamic terrorists combined, including last year one for sorcery, but Pakistan is outrageous?
I appreciate that everything needs to begin somewhere but maybe a better beginning might be made by withdrawing active support for an absolute monarchy that governs through a particularily nasty version of fundamentalist Islam.
 
Ruinous.
Once you've let capital punishment in the door, you're just quibbling about degrees. You know that joke, where the punchline is, "We've already established that. Now we're just arguing about the price."
Saudi Arabia beheads more people than all the Islamic terrorists combined, including last year one for sorcery, but Pakistan is outrageous?
I appreciate that everything needs to begin somewhere but maybe a better beginning might be made by withdrawing active support for an absolute monarchy that governs through a particularily nasty version of fundamentalist Islam.

Can you prove that? And if you can what does that tell you about Islam. Islam is nasty, and meant to be that way.
 
A legitimate government that kept bin laden, the leader of a massive terrorist attack, hidden in its military district for years? Does not compute. They are no different from saudi or iran
 
Qoran does not agree with it :shrug:
Really? That's not what the islamic jurispudence in vast majority of islamic countries reflects. Quran 6:93, 33:57, 33:61 and Hadith such as Sahih Bukhari 3:106, 4:24, 59:369 and Sahih Muslim (1801) are common islamic sources quoted by islamic authority to justify the islamic penal code for blasphemy against the religion of islam, allah and mohammed. In the hadith, mohammed himself show your fellow muslims how to deal with people who speak ill against him. And that's to slaughter his opponents who speak out the truth against him. That's also how muslim clerics are able to issue fatwas against alleged blasphemers such as Salman Rushdie for his death by muslim hands.


Remember Salmaan Taseer, the governor of Punjab? He spoke out against the blasphemy law and filed a mercy petition for Asia Bibi, the woman in the link of my OP who is facing the death penalty of mere allegation of blasphemy against mohammed. And such allegation is a very common tools used by muslims against their non-muslim country fellows.


Taseer was assassinated by his own trusted bodyguard who disagreed with Taseer's opposition to Pakistan's blasphemy law. The bodyguard didn't just shoot him, he shot him 27 times, an overkill that displays the hatred oozing out from islam. If not islam, then where did the bodyguard get this idea that he had no choice but needed to savagely murder the hands that fed him for some ideological difference, an ideology that discriminate the voice and right of secular muslims and non-muslims to their demise?


And yet this murderous bodyguard was celebrated as an islamic hero, not just by 25,000 or more protesters of common muslims but also imams and other islamic leaders. And these protesters aren't the peaceful bunch. They kill, they burn and destroy stuffs to vent their anger. Hundreds of muslims visited his grave a day to pay homage that turn it into a pilgrimage site. In his honor a suni mosque in islamabad was named after him. How can all these masses of muslims, some well educated in islamic theology, be so wrong about what the quran teaches if, as you claimed, the quran "does not agree with it".


Perhaps you need to gather a host of like minded muslims as yourself and go over there and also all over the islamic nations to teach them what the quran really taught, the way you understand it, so that innocent people would not be put to death or imprisoned for simply being alleged to have blasphemed mohammed and his religion or allah.
 
Last edited:
Back
Top Bottom