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The only religion in the world that impose death penalty for blasphemy of prophet

spud_meister said:
Christian scrpture says to kill disrespectful children.
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If you're referring to the OT, that only applies to ancient Israelite who had covenant with God to be His holy people as light to the world. To be holy means to be holy. Do you see them going around killing disrespectful non-believer infidel children? Nope. Besides that, God was dwelling among them and God cannot look upon iniquity.

Psalm 5:4 "For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee."

Hab 1:13 "Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity ..."

As for Christians, this is what Jesus teaches:

Mark 9:37
“Whosoever shall receive one of such children in my name, receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me, receiveth not me, but him that sent me.”

Matthew 18:6 "But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea."
 
Vox said:
Christians have drowned a few witches in the last 200 years or so but they've generally been easing off on such entertainment.

Christians have killed abortionists in the last thirty years or so.

Let's keep in mind that Muslim religion came along about 600 years after Christianity, so they can quite legitimately be 600 years behind the Christians in ending the more horrific religious recreations.

None of the religions can claim totally honorable behavior.......the Jews are well known for their atrocities in Palestine......which continue to this day with the assistance of Christians.
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There was no burning of witches in the Bible. However, Ex 22:18 does command the Israelite not to allow sorceress to live. Again, this command only applies to the covenanted people of Israel when God was sojourning with them in wilderness. As I said before, the Israelite was called to be a holy people and the light to the world. Wickedness and iniquity were not to be tolerated among them. especially when God was with them.

Besides that, sorcery in those days involves sacrificing their sons and daughters as burnt offerings. Therefore, a person who was involved in sorcery wasn't exactly innocent of bloodshed. He or she was a mass murderer of innocence. As such, it calls for death penalty, even in our modern nation.

And talk about killing of abortionists. Abortionists also are murderers of innocent unborn children. Don't make them sound like they are innocent of bloodshed themselves.
 
dolphinocean said:
If you're referring to the OT, that only applies to ancient Israelite who had covenant with God to be His holy people as light to the world. To be holy means to be holy. Do you see them going around killing disrespectful non-believer infidel children? Nope. Besides that, God was dwelling among them and God cannot look upon iniquity.

Psalm 5:4 "For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee."

Hab 1:13 "Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity ..."

As for Christians, this is what Jesus teaches:

Mark 9:37
“Whosoever shall receive one of such children in my name, receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me, receiveth not me, but him that sent me.”

Matthew 18:6 "But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea."
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Did not Jesus state the laws of the OT were still laws?
 
Fledermaus said:
Did not Jesus state the laws of the OT were still laws?
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Jesus fulfilled the Mosaic laws, which include the Leviticus law. Christians aren't ancient Israelite with whom God's presence was with them. Therefore, the Leviticus law fulfilled by Jesus, isn't applicable to Christians.
 
dolphinocean said:
Jesus fulfilled the Mosaic laws, which include the Leviticus law. Christians aren't ancient Israelite with whom God's presence was with them. Therefore, the Leviticus law fulfilled by Jesus, isn't applicable to Christians.
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BTW - Both Jesus and his early following were Israelites.
 
Vox said:
Christians have drowned a few witches in the last 200 years or so but they've generally been easing off on such entertainment.

Christians have killed abortionists in the last thirty years or so.

Let's keep in mind that Muslim religion came along about 600 years after Christianity, so they can quite legitimately be 600 years behind the Christians in ending the more horrific religious recreations.

None of the religions can claim totally honorable behavior.......the Jews are well known for their atrocities in Palestine......which continue to this day with the assistance of Christians.
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Lame argument.... 600 years ago there was no world wide social media network. are you suggesting that those islamic people are 600 years less advanced than modern man?

Islam, every country that turns to it, becomes an oppressive ****hole. Do you disagree?
 
Fledermaus said:
Now you are dodging. What question were you responding to?
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Not dodging anything. You asked:

"Did not Jesus state the laws of the OT were still laws?"

And I said: "Jesus fulfilled the Mosaic laws, which include the Leviticus law..."

So, yes, it's still laws of which the ceremonial and other Leviticus laws applicable to the ancient Israelites were fulfulled by Jesus during his time on earth and that part has been abolished upon his crucifixation on the cross:

Epehsian 2:15 "Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;"

When Christ rose from the death Christians are now under grace. The Temple and priesthood are no longer in existence. Our Christian body becomes the Temple of God where God's commandment is now written in our heart and guided by the Holy Spirit into observance. So, all the OT commandments are still there where Christ in us is the High Priest between us and God.
 
dolphinocean said:
Not dodging anything. You asked:

"Did not Jesus state the laws of the OT were still laws?"

And I said: "Jesus fulfilled the Mosaic laws, which include the Leviticus law..."

So, yes, it's still laws of which the ceremonial and other Leviticus laws applicable to the ancient Israelites were fulfulled by Jesus during his time on earth and that part has been abolished upon his crucifixation on the cross:

Epehsian 2:15 "Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;"

When Christ rose from the death Christians are now under grace. The Temple and priesthood are no longer in existence. Our Christian body becomes the Temple of God where God's commandment is now written in our heart and guided by the Holy Spirit into observance. So, all the OT commandments are still there where Christ in us is the High Priest between us and God.
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I did not ask your interpretation of Christianity and or fulfilling any laws..

I asked about Jesus and his statement as to the laws.
 
Fledermaus said:
I did not ask your interpretation of Christianity and or fulfilling any laws..

I asked about Jesus and his statement as to the laws.
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I have provided you with detailed answer. Too bad it's not what you want to hear.
 
spud_meister said:
Christian scrpture says to kill disrespectful children.
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Nope. That comes from the Old Testament. Jesus said, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

If you notice throughout the New Testament, the ONLY people authorized to commit capital punishment are God (Acts 5), and government (Romans 13).

Have you ever read the Bible?
 
Imagine that, 150 muslim clerics, well schooled in the quran and their islamic theology, demanding death for Asia Bibi and threatening the government of Pakistan and those who help her to escape that they will face consequences. Not to mention the massive protesters who also scream for her hanging or beheading for insulting their prophet. How many times have we been told that we have misinterpreted the quran or the whole islamic teaching. I guess nobody can interpret or understand the quran or the whole islamic teaching, not even the muslim clerics. They always seems to get things wrong and some innocent person ended up death by their hands.

https://www.jihadwatch.org/?p=101649?p=101649

Today about 150 top Muslim Clerics (Muftis) issued a religious decree and demanded from Government to hang Asia bibi [sic] and all other prisoners of blasphemy laws and also demanded speedy trial of pending cases of blasphemy in Pakistani courts.

The religious decree warned government of Pakistan that if Asia Bibi was sent abroad with any conspiracy then administration will face consequences.

The Markaz Ahl-e-Sunnat Lahore which have issued signed Fatwa of 150 of Muslim Mullahas have warned Supreme Court of Pakistan to hearing appeal of Asia Bibi because Islamic teaching have judgment of hanging or beheading of blasphemers and Asia Bibi deserves death.

They also issued decree of killing of those who rescued blasphemy accused and assisted or trying to rescue blasphemers.
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Do you know what Asia did to deserve the ire of muslims in Pakistan and the court that called for her death penalty?

No, she did not murder anybody. Even in murder case, there should be a fair trial based on evidence beyond a reasonable doubt to convict. But, in her case it was a she said vs she said situation. The incident started when she drank from a well with an utensil besides it. A muslim who saw her doing that and started to get on her for defiling the utensil because infidels are considered "unclean". Words were exchanged. When the muslim woman attacked her Christian faith, she simply asked who did her prophet save? That was a fair question given that her Christian faith was challenged. When the muslim woman reported to her imam in the mosque the case ended up in the court which took the words of the muslim side that lied and thus handed down the death sentence.

If you haven't sign the petition yet, please do so to save this woman's life from this grave injustice:

Asia Bibi
 
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