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A Month of Islam and Multiculturalism in Britain: August 2016

coldjoint said:
We are the only country left that can stop that. It is high time we take up that challenge. We need another WWII like generation and quickly.
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um you know this is some conspiracy bull **** you thinck any en in power wants to hand it over to some one else?
 
coldjoint said:
Muslims cannot have religious freedom in this country. Their freedom would entail making Sharia the law and Islam the only religion. Someone who uses the word Islamophobia has not given enough thought to the subject anyway.
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mulsims can believe what they want so long as they dont brake any laws

and according to you they must be able to say anything they want
 
LittleNipper said:
The greatest difference between Christianity and Islam is that Islam cannot stand up to open debate or intellectual scrutiny. However, in nations that legislate an end to open debate the next big step is dictatorship. And dictatorship is what allows Islam to thrive. Christianity thrives best under adverse conditions but goes underground.
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your magic sky dady dosent seem any more real then thers or any less evil
 
Glen Contrarian said:
The Nazis would have heartily agreed with your bolded statement. So would have the Americans who so strongly supported the Chinese exclusion act, who supported sending the Japanese to internment camps, who so strongly supported Jim Crow. The Catholics who declared the very first Jewish ghetto (just outside Rome) would have agreed, too.

Do yourself a favor and travel the great cities of Europe. Are there problems? Sure. But the problems their cities are having due to Muslims don't even come close to the problems our own cities have thanks to our guns-for-everybody-all-the-time culture. And if you'd just walk down the street in London, Paris, Rome, or Athens - and I've been to all four of those in the past twelve months - you'd hear a plethora of different languages...and in the aggregate - meaning, adding up all the violence without paying attention to ONLY the terrorism news fed to you every day by the idiot box - you'd see FAR less violence there than we have here in America.

It takes COURAGE to welcome those who don't look/act/speak/think/worship as you do...and it takes even more courage to realize that the ones who do turn to violence are a very, very small minority indeed. Attaching the evil of the few to the far greater majority who are innocent...such is the path of fear and cowardice.
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The USA has been accepting immigrants on a far larger scale over the years than any country in Europe. To say that we do not accept people who don't talk/look/think like us is a foolish statement to make.
 
coldjoint said:
Hate speech laws are step one in eliminating free speech.
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Sorry to say, Europeans believe widely that only, when it is their own speach being imposed on.
 
coldjoint said:
The Nazis, in this case, are Islamists and you bet they agree. They want Islamic culture and only Islamic culture. Snap out of it Glen. I will explain it one more time. An intolerant culture like Islam will destroy any tolerant culture it touches. Look what Islam has done to ME that was once dominated by Christians. Look at Turkey, almost completely Christian 500 years ago now almost 100% Muslim.
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Look at America,it was the land of natives 500 years ago.

and it was never completely christian 500 years ago..

As for Anatolia ,it was not completely christan 500 years ago either
 
Glen Contrarian said:
The Nazis would have heartily agreed with your bolded statement. So would have the Americans who so strongly supported the Chinese exclusion act, who supported sending the Japanese to internment camps, who so strongly supported Jim Crow. The Catholics who declared the very first Jewish ghetto (just outside Rome) would have agreed, too.

Do yourself a favor and travel the great cities of Europe. Are there problems? Sure. But the problems their cities are having due to Muslims don't even come close to the problems our own cities have thanks to our guns-for-everybody-all-the-time culture. And if you'd just walk down the street in London, Paris, Rome, or Athens - and I've been to all four of those in the past twelve months - you'd hear a plethora of different languages...and in the aggregate - meaning, adding up all the violence without paying attention to ONLY the terrorism news fed to you every day by the idiot box - you'd see FAR less violence there than we have here in America.

It takes COURAGE to welcome those who don't look/act/speak/think/worship as you do...and it takes even more courage to realize that the ones who do turn to violence are a very, very small minority indeed. Attaching the evil of the few to the far greater majority who are innocent...such is the path of fear and cowardice.
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All this would be fine and dandy if they didn't seek to drag their huts over here and call our way life illegitimate because Allah said so. Don't let the screen door hit you in the ass on the way out.
 
brothern said:
Sounds like a youuuge erosion of Western political liberties, that one, there. #sarcasm
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The state should not have the power to jail those whose opinions it finds disagreeable. There is, of course, a reasonable limit to free speech: direct incitement of violence.

You might find this particular example trivial, but it indicates that there is solid legal precedent in the UK for authorities to imprison political dissidents.
 
blarg said:
your magic sky dady dosent seem any more real then thers or any less evil
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You know what is evil? Silly people who believe everything just happened ----- and educate innocent children to believe the same stupidity, but expel CREATIONISM because it may influence those very same children they themselves are indoctrinating. Your beliefs are even more degrading, selfish, and hurtful because they are totally HOPELESS. And in reality you likely wouldn't recognize GOD anymore than the Sadducee's of Christ's day ---- even if He walked on water, calmed storms, cured the sick, and raised the dead.
 
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LittleNipper said:
You know what is evil? Silly people who believe everything just happened ----- and educate innocent children to believe the same stupidity, but expel CREATIONISM because it may influence those very same children they themselves are indoctrinating. Your beliefs are even more degrading, selfish, and hurtful because they are totally HOPELESS. And in reality you likely wouldn't recognize GOD anymore than the Sadducee's of Christ's day ---- even if He walked on water, calmed storms, cured the sick, and raised the dead.
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Evolution happened dude. You might as well accept it. Even Catholic schools don't teach creationism.
 
Randolph said:
The state should not have the power to jail those whose opinions it finds disagreeable. There is, of course, a reasonable limit to free speech: direct incitement of violence.

You might find this particular example trivial, but it indicates that there is solid legal precedent in the UK for authorities to imprison political dissidents.
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Agreed. Difference of opinion should not have you end up facing legal consequences.
 
RetiredUSN said:
The USA has been accepting immigrants on a far larger scale over the years than any country in Europe. To say that we do not accept people who don't talk/look/think like us is a foolish statement to make.
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The US has been accepting far FEWER refugees from the ME. Not only that, but I did not say that Americans AS A WHOLE don't accept people who son't talk/look/think like us...but that statement DOES most certainly apply to the xenophobes and Islamophobes who get a woody every time the name 'Trump' is mentioned. Do I really need to show you not just his racist dog-whistles, but his racist acts, including the times that the government had to sue him in order to get his corporation to rent to blacks? Or can you Google that for yourself?
 
coldjoint said:
I suggest you move to one of those countries. You wont run into Islamophobes. It will be like one big safe place for you. By the way those countries are ****holes.
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And you've been to all those nations? Prithee, sirrah, do regale us with the stories of your travels that enables you to state what ****holes these places must be!
 
coldjoint said:
It is the objective of Islam and their politics and their faith cannot be separated. They are almost a quarter of the worlds population. If nothing changes it will be here.

Take a look at the studies to what happens when the population of Islam grows in a country, and apply that to the world. Reality Glen, it doesn't hurt yet.
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AGAIN, you seem to think that Islam is a big monolithic religion, when in actuality, it's nearly as fractured - as NON-monolithic - as is "Christianity". But you simply can't pull yourself away from the paradigm you've been taught. You simply can't conceive that they ain't exactly what you've been told to believe all these years inside the right-wing echo chamber.
 
LittleNipper said:
You know what is evil? Silly people who believe everything just happened ----- and educate innocent children to believe the same stupidity, but expel CREATIONISM because it may influence those very same children they themselves are indoctrinating. Your beliefs are even more degrading, selfish, and hurtful because they are totally HOPELESS. And in reality you likely wouldn't recognize GOD anymore than the Sadducee's of Christ's day ---- even if He walked on water, calmed storms, cured the sick, and raised the dead.
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now thats a stupid thing to say you cant get away from something just happening even your faith ultimately says god just happened to exist and felt like making things the way they are becase just it did

and you sound an awful lot like the kind of Muslim we should be worried about those who dont believe in are magic sky daddy are evil

creationism is expeled becase its a god dam myth that you follow becase it makes you feel better

true those acts you mentioned may not make you a god but if you had some one who could do that id at least have to consider ther claim of divinity a bit more seriously

hey hears an idea why dont you pray some ones lost limb back that should so you have got more then an imaginary magical father figure
 
Tigerace117 said:
Evolution happened dude. You might as well accept it. Even Catholic schools don't teach creationism.
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silence infidel or into gods fire you go :mrgreen:
 
Glen Contrarian said:
And you've been to all those nations? Prithee, sirrah, do regale us with the stories of your travels that enables you to state what ****holes these places must be!
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He's seen it on youtube, buddy. That's even better than having visited.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
AGAIN, you seem to think that Islam is a big monolithic religion, when in actuality, it's nearly as fractured - as NON-monolithic - as is "Christianity". But you simply can't pull yourself away from the paradigm you've been taught. You simply can't conceive that they ain't exactly what you've been told to believe all these years inside the right-wing echo chamber.
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Write down 500 times "jihadwatch does not err".

Then hang it all up in your bathroom for butt-wiping purposes.



:mrgreen:
 
Glen Contrarian said:
“To do evil, a human being must first of all believe that what he’s doing is good" - Solzhenitsyn
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I'm glad you quoted this, because to understand it is to understand Islamic extremism. Islamic terrorists believe with every fiber of their being that they are doing the right thing. Whether they have misunderstood the message is a completely different subject.
 
stevecanuck said:
I'm glad you quoted this, because to understand it is to understand Islamic extremism. Islamic terrorists believe with every fiber of their being that they are doing the right thing. Whether they have misunderstood the message is a completely different subject.
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Ahem !!
 
stevecanuck said:
I'm glad you quoted this, because to understand it is to understand Islamic extremism. Islamic terrorists believe with every fiber of their being that they are doing the right thing. Whether they have misunderstood the message is a completely different subject.
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It applies to every evildoer - not just terrorists, but those would-be leaders who think that torture is effective, that killing terrorists' families will somehow make the terrorists turn tail, that we should have just taken Iraq's oil (as if the Iraqis would have meekly stood by while we did so).
 
Glen Contrarian said:
It applies to every evildoer - not just terrorists,
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Ok.

but those would-be leaders who think that torture is effective, that killing terrorists' families will somehow make the terrorists turn tail, that we should have just taken Iraq's oil (as if the Iraqis would have meekly stood by while we did so).
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And, off to another subject.....
 
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