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Well, that's true, it is a book full of holes. You got me there.
I call them all wholly holey holy books.
Well, that's true, it is a book full of holes. You got me there.
Why use 5 years old? Does betrothed count?
It relates to the statement you perverted in your question by inserting an age.
Next time you're down and out, try finding a BITTER ATHEIST'S HOMELESS SHELTER.
I inserted nothing, I was going by what was said in the OP. I went back and checked, I was mistaken, the alleged wife was six, not five. Not a big difference though. Regardless, the claim that this practice was common among Christians has nothing to do with what was posted.
You quoted Pete, who made no mention of age, and inserted your own unrelated criteria.
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"Everyone was a pedophile back then. Marrying young was the norm in the Christian world as well."
Please provide evidence that marrying at five years of age was ever commonplace among Christians.
atleast he wasn't having threesomes with his young daughters like Lot that guy was the worst pedophile... or commanded the mass rape of every woman and child in entire cities like moses
Its a good thing none of these people ever existed, and all these stories are made up fairy tale nonsense, or it be really upsetting
Medusa seems to be a nice and decent person. She isn't that far gone from humanity. Try to understand her situation and be more patient with her. Remember, native muslims are born into islam without choice. They are the first victims of islam. eaceHere's something I've discovered. If you want to make Medusa disappear, just answer one of her questions.
I have always wondered what has changed to make it go from normal requirement of group survival to abhorrent evil in our society.
Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236)
It bears pointing out that the Islamic prophet, who according to them is the greatest of all prophets, was a sexual pervert who molested little girl(s). Note by the way that this is not an ad hominem, because it is Islamic doctrine that Muhammed was sinless, thus pointing out his debased deviancy is entirely on point in a criticism of the Islamic religion.
Another thing that needs to be taken from this is an understanding that when ISIS fighters go around molesting little girls, they are only doing as their religion tells them to. It's not because of socioeconomic factors or whatever other nonsense our sociologists want to make up, it is because they follow the perverse religion of Islam.
Source?
Medusa seems to be a nice and decent person. She isn't that far gone from humanity. Try to understand her situation and be more patient with her. Remember, native muslims are born into islam without choice. They are the first victims of islam. eace
I'd guess increasing lifespans played a part in that transition.
Contemporary Christian fanatics have also engaged in such abhorrent behavior, rationalizing it based on the Bible. David Koresh and Jim Jones are two, off the top of my head, who had abused children and raped women. You can find plenty of justification for rape and abuse in the Bible if that's what you're looking for, yet the majority of Christian do not accept it.
I'm not talking about what some Muslim somewhere has done. I'm talking about what the founder of Islam did.
You also wrote about what ISIS does. That's the part of your OP I'm addressing.
Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236)
It bears pointing out that the Islamic prophet, who according to them is the greatest of all prophets, was a sexual pervert who molested little girl(s). Note by the way that this is not an ad hominem, because it is Islamic doctrine that Muhammed was sinless, thus pointing out his debased deviancy is entirely on point in a criticism of the Islamic religion.
Another thing that needs to be taken from this is an understanding that when ISIS fighters go around molesting little girls, they are only doing as their religion tells them to. It's not because of socioeconomic factors or whatever other nonsense our sociologists want to make up, it is because they follow the perverse religion of Islam.
I wrote about it specifically in connection with how Muhammed did the same thing.
Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236)
It bears pointing out that the Islamic prophet, who according to them is the greatest of all prophets, was a sexual pervert who molested little girl(s). Note by the way that this is not an ad hominem, because it is Islamic doctrine that Muhammed was sinless, thus pointing out his debased deviancy is entirely on point in a criticism of the Islamic religion.
Another thing that needs to be taken from this is an understanding that when ISIS fighters go around molesting little girls, they are only doing as their religion tells them to. It's not because of socioeconomic factors or whatever other nonsense our sociologists want to make up, it is because they follow the perverse religion of Islam.
What was that guy's name in Sodom, Lot? The guy who offered his two virgin daughters to be gang-raped by a mob of Sodomites.
Well, one ought to consider the times Muhammad lived--the 6th century I believe, a time when ideas about child abuse had not evolved to the point they are today. Women all over the world were married off young during this time period, and that was probably one of the better alternatives for them. I don't really condemn Muhammad for marrying children. He was doing what was socially acceptable at the time. I do condemn people today we practice such things because they live within a society where they should know better.
OK, but to be fair marrying young women/girls was common back in those days a woman was consider to be a spinster if she were still unmarried at 18. So by todays standards he was as you say, but so were many of our ancestors. And yes, it is not an excuse for Radicals such as ISIS to commit the crimes they have, just so long as you also admit that it is the exception and not the norm among Muslims, or can you be that honest?
I don't care what the norm among Muslims is, my point here concerns the Islamic religion itself, not any given Muslim.
And marriage to nine year olds hasn't been acceptable in the west for some time, if ever. The marriage age for females was constant at twelve from Roman times (if not before) until the 19thand 20th centuries, when it was raised.