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Religious schooling at it's finest

_Sal said:
ah, my apologies, that makes sense...LOL :peace

glad I asked
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I am too. ;) I will never have anything to say on anybody's going to hell except my occasional expression of hope (and I'm working on this) that there is a special place in hell for those who abuse the helpless, including animals.
 
nota bene said:
I am too. ;) I will never have anything to say on anybody's going to hell except my occasional expression of hope (and I'm working on this) that there is a special place in hell for those who abuse the helpless, including animals.
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which was why I asked actually...this is a big site and from previous interactions which we have had I thought your stance was firm but more open

when i read it I was perplexed... :shrug:

just reinforced my belief again about not assuming....just ask

see I learned again here, thanks....:monkey
 
nota bene said:
Tim said [bolding mine]in Post 101 "I will have to deal with my own actions forever."

"Forever" and "eternity" are synonyms. I was saying that I regret, and I truly do, that he's going to be condemning himself (because he will have to deal, he says, with his own actions "forever") for eternity.
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Forever in the context of me is untill I die.

What actions of mine do you think I am condeming of?
 
nota bene said:
That is absolutely NOT what I am saying.
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Then, please, what exactly are you saying. It DOES look like you are saying that.. those are the cute phrases about that I have seen associated with that concept. How are you using it?
 
nota bene said:
Tim said [bolding mine]in Post 101 "I will have to deal with my own actions forever."

"Forever" and "eternity" are synonyms. I was saying that I regret, and I truly do, that he's going to be condemning himself (because he will have to deal, he says, with his own actions "forever") for eternity.
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The phrase 'condemning himself' is often used in relationship to hell. Perhaps using the 'you will have to deal with the consequences of your actions' would be a better way to communicate it.
 
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Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
Tim said [bolding mine]in Post 101 "I will have to deal with my own actions forever."

"Forever" and "eternity" are synonyms. I was saying that I regret, and I truly do, that he's going to be condemning himself (because he will have to deal, he says, with his own actions "forever") for eternity.
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RAMOSS said:
The phrase 'condemning himself' is often used in relationship to hell. Perhaps using the 'you will have to deal with the consequences of your actions' would be a better way to communicate it.
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It may be the clash between expectations of extreme clarity and honesty which the atheist perspective generally drives at vs the poetic or alluding to general way of the religious that is the thing here.
 
Logicman said:
Good for them. That's payback for the secularist's jihad against subjects like Intelligent Design from being discussed in secular institutions.
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Intelligent design is discussed in thinking institutions. It is examined and seen if there is any evidence to support it. This is a normal part of learning how to think clearly and critically.

Not discussing evolution is called not educating children.
 
I was at a Shabbos dinner the other evening and we got into a discussion about whether the Ramban's views on Genesis were a basis for a belief in evolution. The reaction of the school is, I think, tragic, but I believe you are starting to see some theological pushback within the community from people like Natan Slifkin.
 
Logicman said:
Good for them. That's payback for the secularist's jihad against subjects like Intelligent Design from being discussed in secular institutions.
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You don't teach religion masked as science in state schools so we are going to make our kids really dumb in retaliation?

That's the payback you're rooting for here Logicman?
 
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