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Cuban Dissidents Arrested On Way to Apostolic Nunciature in Havana

jet57 said:
Yeeeaah, noooo: that's pretty bad. The Bay of Pigs was not an invasion the way we could have; it was, well, awful. So we really didn't get our collective asses kicked at all. Cuba was a Soviet puppet that was as close to a violation of the Monroe Doctrine as one country could get, so yeah, we shut them down.

And Xian? Sure, why not. That's what we aspire to be and that's not bad.
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Yah, right. If ya could have, ya would have. Ya didn't. Aspiring to be a xian is akin to aspiring to be a cretin or a politician.
 
Realitywins said:
Yah, right. If ya could have, ya would have. Ya didn't. Aspiring to be a xian is akin to aspiring to be a cretin or a politician.
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There's nothing wrong with trying be a xian. We try it in our own lives, why not a country.

And Castro's dead now anyway.
 
jet57 said:
There's nothing wrong with trying be a xian. We try it in our own lives, why not a country.

And Castro's dead now anyway.
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Sure there, is. Xianity is as oppressive as Communism.
 
Realitywins said:
Sure there, is. Xianity is as oppressive as Communism.
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In the 14th century ALL civilizations were set up like communism, except in the west they called it feudalism. There's nothing wrong with a goal of a peaceful society.
 
Realitywins said:
Exactly. I think you are beginning to catch on. The government of the US, heavily influenced by the regressive xian mythology, has oppressed and kept Cuba from advancing ever since it got it's collective ass kicked at the Bay Of Pigs.
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:lamo:lamo:lamo

Wow buddy. In the "unable to understand history" category you've outdone yourself.

Read a book once in a while.
 
Realitywins said:
Sure there, is. Xianity is as oppressive as Communism.
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Nope. This is a blatantly false statement buddy. The United States is not as oppressive as the Soviet Union was, and we've been a largely Christian country throughout our history.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Nope. This is a blatantly false statement buddy. The United States is not as oppressive as the Soviet Union was, and we've been a largely Christian country throughout our history.
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Yah, you are right. As history is our witness, xianity is far, far worse.
 
Realitywins said:
Yah, you are right. As history is our witness, xianity is far, far worse.
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Bull****.

The biggest mass murderers in world history were both communists and atheists.

Please take a history class and actually learn something. It's no fun when the other person can't coherently make a counter argument because they don't know anything.
 
Tigerace117 said:
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Bull****.

The biggest mass murderers in world history were both communists and atheists.

Please take a history class and actually learn something. It's no fun when the other person can't coherently make a counter argument because they don't know anything.
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Kindly research not only your own murderous and hate-filled religions history but those of other earlier religions. The sad xian claim about atheists being bigger killers is contradicted by historical fact, fact you guys deny until you get the runs.
 
Realitywins said:
Kindly research not only your own murderous and hate-filled religions history but those of other earlier religions. The sad xian claim about atheists being bigger killers is contradicted by historical fact, fact you guys deny until you get the runs.
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Oh really?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ving-historys-greatest-mass-murderer-his-due/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides_by_death_toll

Top Ten Most Evil Dictators of All Time (in order of kill count) – Popten

Dictator Death Tolls: Who Killed the Most?, RealClearWorld - The Compass Blog

Twentieth Century Atlas - Death Tolls

As you can see, the facts disagree with you. And these were just single leaders. Their successors continued the body count, especially in the East Bloc countries--- all of which were atheistic.m
 
Tigerace117 said:
Oh really?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ving-historys-greatest-mass-murderer-his-due/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides_by_death_toll

Top Ten Most Evil Dictators of All Time (in order of kill count) – Popten

Dictator Death Tolls: Who Killed the Most?, RealClearWorld - The Compass Blog

Twentieth Century Atlas - Death Tolls

As you can see, the facts disagree with you. And these were just single leaders. Their successors continued the body count, especially in the East Bloc countries--- all of which were atheistic.m
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Yawn. This we have been over time and again and the religious inspired dead always outnumber any other cause but natural death...which is rare when one is under the thump of some religion or other.
 
Realitywins said:
Yawn. This we have been over time and again and the religious inspired dead always outnumber any other cause but natural death...which is rare when one is under the thump of some religion or other.
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Actually, no, you have not. You are flailing about in an attempt to avoid actually having to put your money where your mouth is. Let's see some proof.

You've been claiming America is under the control of Christian radicals. Please provide evidence that natural death is "rare" in America. Then provide proof that living in America is worse than living in the Soviet Union was, since you think Christianity is worse than communism.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Actually, no, you have not. You are flailing about in an attempt to avoid actually having to put your money where your mouth is. Let's see some proof.

You've been claiming America is under the control of Christian radicals. Please provide evidence that natural death is "rare" in America. Then provide proof that living in America is worse than living in the Soviet Union was, since you think Christianity is worse than communism.
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Why? In the past I have provided you with irrefutable (except by you who deny fact and history) evidence of the horrors of religions and especially xianity. You either ignore thos facts, say "it ain't so" or dig up some xian website which lies and denies as you do.:lamo
 
Realitywins said:
Why? In the past I have provided you with irrefutable (except by you who deny fact and history) evidence of the horrors of religions and especially xianity. You either ignore thos facts, say "it ain't so" or dig up some xian website which lies and denies as you do.:lamo
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No.....actually, I don't believe I've ever seen you post evidence of any sort, much less "irrefutable". The longer the debate goes on the more and more you sink out of sight, hanging on the coattails of more insightful posters.

Your words are those of a man who has nothing and knows it. Post your evidence that natural death is rare in the United States, that life in the USSR was better than life in America, and that Christianity is worse than communism.

You came to the wrong place if you wanted an echo chamber.
 
Tigerace117 said:
No.....actually, I don't believe I've ever seen you post evidence of any sort, much less "irrefutable". The longer the debate goes on the more and more you sink out of sight, hanging on the coattails of more insightful posters.

Your words are those of a man who has nothing and knows it. Post your evidence that natural death is rare in the United States, that life in the USSR was better than life in America, and that Christianity is worse than communism.

You came to the wrong place if you wanted an echo chamber.
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I believe you have never seen any of my posts where facts, history and associated evidence prove your beliefs as false and alien as truth to Trump. You would of course close your eyes and ears to anything which contradicts your programming, brainwashing, indoctrination. Denial was part of that.
 
Realitywins said:
I believe you have never seen any of my posts where facts, history and associated evidence prove your beliefs as false and alien as truth to Trump. You would of course close your eyes and ears to anything which contradicts your programming, brainwashing, indoctrination. Denial was part of that.
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Yet more psychobabble avoidance behavior. Man up and show the evidence. If you don't, I'll be forced to conclude you don't have any and have been talking out of your hindquarters.

Which, of course, is what you've been doing in every other thread.

So.

Put up the proof, or go hide behind another poster some more.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Yet more psychobabble avoidance behavior. Man up and show the evidence. If you don't, I'll be forced to conclude you don't have any and have been talking out of your hindquarters.

Which, of course, is what you've been doing in every other thread.

So.

Put up the proof, or go hide behind another poster some more.
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OK I accept your admission you have no idea what you are talking about, as well as your admission you deny reality, facts and history. Thanks BTW. :lol:
 
Realitywins said:
OK I accept your admission you have no idea what you are talking about, as well as your admission you deny reality, facts and history. Thanks BTW. :lol:
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Look at that. Realitywins is completely and totally unable to post any evidence whatsoever. Which, of course, indicates he doesn't have any.

Post your proof that natural death is rare in the United States. Post your proof that life was better under the USSR than it is in America. Post your proof that Christianity is worse than communism.

Stop running away. Man up.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Look at that. Realitywins is completely and totally unable to post any evidence whatsoever. Which, of course, indicates he doesn't have any.

Post your proof that natural death is rare in the United States. Post your proof that life was better under the USSR than it is in America. Post your proof that Christianity is worse than communism.

Stop running away. Man up.
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:lamo If you had anything at all to refute what I have said, you'd not be refusing to provide said evidence. Instead you use the usual avoidance techniques. Is there a school the faithful take for this? If so, you should return your graduation certificate because you fail mightily with your every post.
 
Realitywins said:
:lamo If you had anything at all to refute what I have said, you'd not be refusing to provide said evidence. Instead you use the usual avoidance techniques. Is there a school the faithful take for this? If so, you should return your graduation certificate because you fail mightily with your every post.
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Dude-- start paying attention. I've already posted a half a dozen sources supporting my position. If you'd like I'll post them again, since clearly you weren't paying attention.

Oh, and by the way--- personal attacks are another sign you don't actually have a valid argument. So keep it up buddy.
 
Evangelical Pastor Arrested During Demolition Of A Temple In Santiago De Cuba
Evangelical Pastor Arrested During Demolition Of A Temple In Santiago De Cuba / 14ymedio – Translating Cuba

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The evangelical pastor Alain Toledano. (Social networks)

14ymedio, Havana, 5 February 2016 – The evangelical pastor Marilin Alayo was arrested today, Friday, during the demolition of a temple in the Abel Santamaria district in Santiago de Cuba, as reported to this newspaper by Pastor Bernardo de Quesada, founder of the Apostolic Move, a Christian movement that separated from the Cuban Council of Churches in 2003.

The demolition comes at a time when the church pastor and Alayo’s husband, Alain Toledano, is traveling in Miami.

Pastor Toledano explained through a message on Facebook that, so far, he has been unable to talk to his wife, who is still being held incommunicado, along with pastors of the network and the local church. “More than 40 of our spiritual children are detained in the school in the municipality of Guama, they were beaten, abused, threatened. The other disciples do not know where they are, there are many people detained and so far we do not know where they are,” he wrote.
Click link above for full article.
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Yes, Obama’s message on the death of Fidel Castro was “pathetic”, but far more shocking was Pope Francis condolence in a message to Raul Castro that said: “I express to you my sentiments of grief”. He also said that he grieved over the “sad news” and would pray for the former dictator. Castro’s Pope?
 
Tigerace117 said:
Dude-- start paying attention. I've already posted a half a dozen sources supporting my position. If you'd like I'll post them again, since clearly you weren't paying attention.

Oh, and by the way--- personal attacks are another sign you don't actually have a valid argument. So keep it up buddy.
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:lamo
 
Realitywins said:
It took a few seconds, first I had to compose myself. But mostly I am ignoring you.

This is quite eloquent and intelligent so you will likely discount it as you do everything which shows your faith as false.; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i3mX0YRrjM&t=5s
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Yes, I've noticed that you are utterly unable to argue coherently and like to hide behind other posters.

Are you really that gullible that you've resorted to YouTube videos?
 
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