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Is Judaic Monotheism Detrimental to Society?

Is Judaic Monotheism Detrimental to Society?


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Another Quote by Karl Marx,
"The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real
happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a
condition, which needs illusions."

This is the Man who designed Communism- in case you didn't know
 
The two largest Communist Societies were Atheistic. They are majority examples, not the what is only possible.
The you CONCEDE that communism does not necessitate atheism in the least. It just HAPPENS to be that the largest communist states are ANTI-THEISTIC.


AND YOU CAN get a world-view from "I don't believe in GOD". Just like how the Philosophies of Communism and Nationalism came about. From that belief you can lead to believe in no god-given rights(no-one has rights), you can believe there is no such thing as evil, you can believe in purification of the gene pools in order to better the human race. THESE are examples of how an atheistic society can lead to things JUST as detrimental as Christianity would.

Your argument is a non-sequitur. It as silly as saying "If you don't like icecream then your favorite food is probably hamburgers." Its a non-sequitur. It does not follow in the least.

Its possible that if you do NOT like ice cream then your favorite food might be hamburgers... but NOT liking icecream doesn't make anyone more or less prone to like or dislike hamburgers. Not liking icecream has nothing to do with hamburgers. IN THE EXACT SAME WAY, not believing in the existence of god(s) does not make someone more or less likely to believe or disbelieve in ANY of the following things:
1) rights
2) communism
3) nationalism
4) eugenics

Your entire argument revolves around a connection you can't establish. All you can say is "well lots of communists/nationalists/eugenicists/moral_relativists are atheists therefore atheism must have something to do with it". That is a stupid argument. That because a lot of people are communist and are also atheists then there must be some type of connection. The fact is you can't demonstrate there is a connection so all you can do is make bald faced assertions that there is.


Quoted From Karl Marx himself
"Religious distress is at the same time the expression of real distress and the protest against
real distress. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world,
just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people."
Another Quote by Karl Marx,
"The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real
happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a
condition, which needs illusions."

Marx was anti-theistic. There is no disagreement there. Are you claiming every form of communism or even MOST form of communism must apply anti-theistic Marxist ideas???



This is the Man who designed Communism- in case you didn't know
Therefore all or most forms of communism must be Marxist? That is what you are claiming and that is exactly where you are wrong. Its as stupid as claiming that all Christians must believe the Pope is their leader because all Christian sects are ultimately derivatives of Catholicism.
 
Therefore all or most forms of communism must be Marxist? That is what you are claiming and that is exactly where you are wrong. Its as stupid as claiming that all Christians must believe the Pope is their leader because all Christian sects are ultimately derivatives of Catholicism.

You fail to see what i am saying at what question i am addressing. I know its an illogical argument, so i was associating it with the same same argument the topic declaring that Christianity is detrimental to society. I was rolling with the same way of thinking as the op.

Just like it's stupid claiming all forms of communism is Atheist, that all of Judaic-Monotheism as a group is detrimental to society, because the same way it can be detrimental is the same way Atheist-stemmed beliefs can be detrimental. Idea's in a single religion is just as various as the idea's in Atheism.

"Your argument is a non-sequitur. It as silly as saying "If you don't like icecream then your favorite food is probably hamburgers." Its a non-sequitur. It does not follow in the least".
You just don't get my argument... I AM showing different ways people can interpret an ideology. JUST like how people can interpret Christianity in different ways... and my final point is that Neither Atheist or Christians have dont have any difference's in the way in which they can effect the society in a bad way. BECAUSE that is up to the individual looney person NOT and religion or belief.


"Marx was anti-theistic. There is no disagreement there. Are you claiming every form of communism or even MOST form of communism must apply anti-theistic Marxist ideas???"

when did i say ANYTHING like that? All i said was the two biggest communistic government's were Anti-Theistic, so they are two examples we can see what a government would be like if it were Anti-theistic.
i said Communism was Atheistic is because the guy who founded it DID intend for it to be. what don't you understand about that? I don't care what people morphed into what it is now, im just saying what it was for the purpose of showing that it's an product of Atheistic- Philosophy. As anything you would consider bad or detrimental coming from an Judaic Monotheism- Philosophy.
 
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