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    Dear Atheists

    I'm not griping so much as perplexed. Is it true that I cannot say I am a woman of faith? Does it perforce mean that you get to sharpen your debate claws on my beliefs? Scourge99, specifically.

    The title of the thread was why do people believe in God. I answered the title. There was nothing in the title to indicate that I needed to explain or defend anything. So I simply answered by saying "I'm very protective of my faith, it's not actually up for discussion. All I am willing to say in this thread is it's a gift - and I don't believe the basis of faith can be explained."

    Maybe I'm one of those few-and-far-between Christians who does not preach, or judge. I'm more like a 60's hippie. "Hey man; whatever man. If it makes you happy." I mean, I'm a liberal ffs. I swear like a sailor. Willful ignorance is my biggest pet peeve. I can't stand bullies. I am a Very Bad Christian (as the label in America goes these days). And (shock-n-awe, y'all) - I treat people and their beliefs with dignity and respect and actually expect the same in return. It's karmic, doncha know. Yah.

    So, dear atheists. When I say my faith is not up for discussion, please note that I'm not attacking your personal non-belief system, and return the favor.

    Kthxbai.

    Oh, p.s.: If you strongly feel you must call me on this, kindly start your own thread. I actually believe you can comport yourself as an adult with some level of compassion and understanding.

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    Re: Dear Atheists

    You're posting on a debate forum where *EVERYTHING* is up for discussion, like it or not. If you don't want to discuss your faith, don't. That doesn't obligate anyone not to talk about it if you choose to. By posting at all, you opened yourself up to challenge, debate and discussion. Learn your lesson for next time and if you truly don't want to discuss it, never post about it in the first place.
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    And I call bull****. The OP shouldn't ask a question that they only want certain people to answer.

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    Re: Dear Atheists

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    I'm not griping so much as perplexed. Is it true that I cannot say I am a woman of faith? Does it perforce mean that you get to sharpen your debate claws on my beliefs?

    The title of the thread was why do people believe in God. I answered the title. There was nothing in the title to indicate that I needed to explain or defend anything. So I simply answered by saying "I'm very protective of my faith, it's not actually up for discussion. All I am willing to say in this thread is it's a gift - and I don't believe the basis of faith can be explained."

    Basically, it means that you can't discuss belief on this forum (and probably others) without being ridiculed, unfortunately. Try not to be too offended. When I see that someone just wants to flame me over something that is unprovable, I don't feel compelled to get into a pissing contest. Beliefs are important in the history of humanity, and they often make us better people. Stick to your core principles and beliefs, and let others fire away. It's just imaginary bullets.
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    Re: Dear Atheists

    On one my hand, I certainly would suggest that my fellow atheists to stay on topic and be willing to accept hypothetical premises for the purpose of debate. On the other, I would remind the faithful that this is a debate forum, and anything you say is up for debate, no matter how dearly you hold it. If you say "faith is a gift", you should expect people to question that belief.

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    Yeah, I went maybe two lightweight rounds with him (him writing books, me refusing to discuss it) and I said I'm leaving the thread, and that was that.

    Imaginary bullets, yeah. I am wearing my teflon undies.

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    Disagreeing. Me answering a question doesn't mean anybody gets to stroll past my boundaries just for ****s and giggles. My business partner and one of the nicest guys I know is an agnostic. He could talk my arm off I let him. I don't give him **** about how his mind works, and he does the same for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    On one my hand, I certainly would suggest that my fellow atheists to stay on topic and be willing to accept hypothetical premises for the purpose of debate. On the other, I would remind the faithful that this is a debate forum, and anything you say is up for debate, no matter how dearly you hold it. If you say "faith is a gift", you should expect people to question that belief.

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    Disagreeing. Me answering a question doesn't mean anybody gets to stroll past my boundaries just for ****s and giggles.
    Actually they do. If you bring up your beliefs in a debate forum for religion they are fair game.

    My business partner and one of the nicest guys I know is an agnostic. He could talk my arm off I let him. I don't give him **** about how his mind works, and he does the same for me.
    In a professional setting, I would agree that it is probably a bad idea to criticize others religious (or political) beliefs. However, this board is expressly made for disagreement, and the whole point is to be able to argue.

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    Re: Dear Atheists

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    I'm not griping so much as perplexed. Is it true that I cannot say I am a woman of faith? Does it perforce mean that you get to sharpen your debate claws on my beliefs? Scourge99, specifically.
    There's a small handful of them. Rude and condescending. Coarse and persecutory. Self-righteous and intolerant.

    It is indeed perplexing. They are no different than extremists of any stripe.

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    Re: Dear Atheists

    If you don't want to discuss your beliefs, don't post them. The choice to discuss them or not is up to you. No need to say "it's not up for discussion", just don't ****ing post about them anymore. Easy peasy.

    As an aside, I don't respect anyone's beliefs just because they have them. That would be silly.

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