and this, as well as your responses to Ferris are classic CC argumentation -- constantly changing the bar while trying to dominate the conversation through use of mod status and sheer tenacity geared towards wearing others down.
No, I neither changed the bar nor did I use my mod status in debate. I used my mod status when rules were being broken. This is typical Gardener complaining, mostly when he has no defense for his position. If anyone is changing the bar, it is you, as usual.
You have indicated your lack of concern through your casual disregard for the status of children in Yemen. You have rationalized that since this is just one country brought to your attention that uses the life of Mohammad to justify the sexual predation of children that the question of the relationship between the life of Mohammad and his followers own attitudes must not count. You are bean counting rather than reasoning because it is Yemen law and the justification for it that establishes the relationship between the deeds of Mohammad and present day actions, and not your arbitrary and ill defined need for the practice to achieve a level of prevalence worthy of your acknowledgment.
And again, Gardener misrepresenting a position because the REAL position doesn't fit his agenda of attack. I challenged you to point out where I made any claims that, in today's society, the behaviors of that we are discussing are NOT pedophilic and wrong. Come on, Gardener, prove you claim. Show us all how there is more to your debating than misrepresentation and bias. Here's your chance to do it. Show us all a quote where I made the claim that you are asserting I made.
Your error, and I'd imagine it's intentional, is that we are discussing three issues. Now, I've already said this, but since I know you'd rather make false claims about my position, I'll say it again, just so we're clear:
1) Was Mohammad a pedophile?
2) Would the behavior that Mohammad exhibited be pedophilic, today?
3) Is Mohammad's behavior, that specific situation, something that is embraced and is widespread, today?
Here are my answers:
1) Unknown because of historical context.
2) Absolutely. In today's world this is abhorrent behavior regardless of where or why it occurs.
3) No. And this has NOTHING TO DO WITH POINT #2.
I hope this clarifies things for you, Gardener. This way, when you misrepresent my position in your response, I'll just copy/paste what I wrote, demonstrating your misrepresentation, rejecting it and exposing what you do for all to see.
And I wait with anticipation for the quotes.
