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    Re: A Must-See Episode of Glenn Beck - Faith of our Founders

    Oh, look. The two books recommended on the show are now #2 and #3 on the bestseller list on amazon.


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    Re: A Must-See Episode of Glenn Beck - Faith of our Founders

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    The state of illiteracy amongst the American populace is truly sad.
    You don't have to tell me that. I'm a reading specialist.


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    Re: A Must-See Episode of Glenn Beck - Faith of our Founders

    If you think that a show that begins with: "Does it matter that our president is surrounded by socialists and marxists..." is a "history" lesson, I don't even know how to comment. But thanks for providing us with these insights into your intellectual standards.

    p.s. That is the worst shirt/tie combo I've ever seen. A paisley tie DOES NOT MATCH a plaid shirt. Cheese and rice.
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    Re: A Must-See Episode of Glenn Beck - Faith of our Founders

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Oh, look. The two books recommended on the show are now #2 and #3 on the bestseller list on amazon.
    Bestseller list does not equal vetted research.

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    Re: A Must-See Episode of Glenn Beck - Faith of our Founders

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    If you think that a show that begins with: "Does it matter that our president is surrounded by socialists and marxists..." is a "history" lesson, you are sadly deluded. But thanks for providing us with these insights into your intellectual standards.
    Get back to me when you've watched the entire show. I'll be interested in the untruths you claim he spouts.


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    Re: A Must-See Episode of Glenn Beck - Faith of our Founders

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Bestseller list does not equal vetted research.
    Do you even know what the books are? Jeez louise. Knee-jerk reaction much?


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    Re: A Must-See Episode of Glenn Beck - Faith of our Founders

    David Barton is the Founder and President of WallBuilders, a national pro-family organization that presents America's forgotten history and heroes, with an emphasis on our moral, religious and constitutional heritage.

    WallBuilders is a name taken from the Old Testament writings of Nehemiah, who led a grassroots movement to rebuild the walls of Jerusalem and restore its strength and honor. In the same way, WallBuilders seeks to energize the grassroots today to become involved in strengthening their communities, states, and nation.

    David is the author of numerous best-selling books, with the subjects being drawn largely from his massive library of tens of thousands of original writings from the Founding Era. He also addresses well over 400 groups each year.

    His exhaustive research has rendered him an expert in historical and constitutional issues and he serves as a consultant to state and federal legislators, has participated in several cases at the Supreme Court, was involved in the development of the History/Social Studies standards for states such as Texas and California, and has helped produce history textbooks now used in schools across the nation.

    David was named by Time magazine as one of America's 25 most influential evangelicals, and he has received numerous national and international awards, including Who's Who in Education and DAR's highest award, the George Washington Honor Medal. His work in media has merited several Angel Awards, Telly Awards, and the Dove Foundation Seal of Approval.

    David and his wife Cheryl have three grown children, Damaris, Timothy, and Stephen, and reside in Aledo, TX.
    Well, at least we can rest assured that author David Barton doesn't have an agenda.

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    Re: A Must-See Episode of Glenn Beck - Faith of our Founders

    Again, I'll wait for your critique. I'm sure it will be swimming with maturity and intelligent opinions.


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    Re: A Must-See Episode of Glenn Beck - Faith of our Founders

    Wow. There's an awful lot online about author David Barton...

    Described as a "Christian historical revisionist," Barton is attributed with not only authoring the following quotes which "the culture warriors of the Religious Right never tire of repeating ... ad infinitum and ad nauseam, ..." [2]

    "The United States of America are a Christian Nation."

    "The founding fathers were evangelical Christians."

    "Church-state separation is a liberal myth."

    but is also credited with making up supporting quotes, "such as the following one that is completely bogus, but still circulating in Christian Right circles."
    "We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all of our political institutions upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God." --fictional quote attributed to James Madison.
    David Barton - SourceWatch

    propagandist David Barton has issued a statement conceding that the following twelve quotations attributed to prominent historical figures are either false or at best questionable. WallBuilders' observations about the quotes are in parenthesis.

    It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ!
    -- Patrick Henry (questionable)

    It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible.
    -- George Washington (questionable)

    Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise. In this sense and to this extent, our civilizations and our institutions are emphatically Christian.
    -- Holy Trinity v. U.S. [Supreme Court] (false)

    We have staked the whole future of American civilization, nor upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all of our political institutions upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves ... according to the Ten Commandments of God.
    -- James Madison (false)

    Whosoever shall introduce into the public affairs the principles of primitive Christianity will change the face of the world.
    -- Benjamin Franklin (questionable)

    The principles of all genuine liberty, and of wise laws and administrations are to be drawn from the Bible and sustained by its authority. The man therefore who weakens or destroys the divine authority of that book may be assessory to all the public disorders which society is doomed to suffer.
    -- Noah Webster (questionable)

    There are two powers only which are sufficient to control men, and secure the rights of individuals and a peaceable administration; these are the combined force of religion and law, and the force or fear of the bayonet.
    -- Noah Webster (questionable)

    The only assurance of our nation's safety is to lay our foundation in morality and religion.
    -- Abe Lincoln (questionable)

    The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next.
    -- Abe Lincoln (questionable)

    A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy. While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but when once they lose their virtue then will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or eternal invader.
    -- Samuel Adams (questionable)
    [this can be found in Harry Alonzo Cushing, ed., The Writings of Samuel Adams (1908), Vol. 4, p. 124 -- Cliff Walker, May 1, 2002]

    I have always said and always will say that the studious perusal of the Sacred Volume will make us better citizens.
    -- Thomas Jefferson (questionable)

    America is great because she is good. and if America ever ceases to be good, she will cease to be great.
    -- Alexis de Toqueville, Democracy in America (definitely not in the book; perhaps in other more obscure writings; questionable)
    What? An author who appeared on the Glen Beck show MADE UP A FICTIONAL QUOTE BY JAMES MADISON and other founding fathers in order to bolster his case? I'm shocked and appalled.

    But not surprised.

    Here's a little light reading for you, Mellie.

    From Christian Ethics Today - An Expose on David Barton's Misinformation Campaign Wallbuilders or Mythbuilders By Nicholas P Miller - 003 p 17

    Christianity's role in history of U.S. at issue

    Key quote:

    Those ideas resonate with many Christians, history and religion professors say, but they concern many others.

    "I'm an evangelical Christian, and I think David Barton and Peter Marshall are completely out to lunch," said John Fea, a history professor at Messiah College in Pennsylvania, a Christian institution. "They are not experts on social studies and history. Neither of them are trained in history. They are preachers who use the past and history as a means of promoting a political agenda in the present."
    Having David Barton lecture on the religious views of the founding fathers is a lot like having a botanist offer commentary on evolution of mammals.

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    Re: A Must-See Episode of Glenn Beck - Faith of our Founders

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Again, I'll wait for your critique. I'm sure it will be swimming with maturity and intelligent opinions.
    Yeah, I saw enough in the first five minutes to convince me that it would be the same standard Glen Beck propaganda. A little research into his special guest (and his books) showed that my assessment was accurate. Interestingly enough, your OP parrots Glen Beck's advertisement for his April 8 show. LULZ.

    If I want to learn about history, I'll read historically accurate works by people who don't misquote or create new quotes from the founding fathers to bolster their case.
    Last edited by Catz Part Deux; 04-10-10 at 01:24 AM.

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