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Islam’s Darwin problem

Sylviane88 said:
Fallacies??? What can I do for you if you're totally brainwashed .. You can't accept a reasonning like mine, unlike other members here.
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LOL. Reasoning like yours? There is only logic. You know, the well-established field of study? It's a common grounds upon which we can reason; if you can't accept that, it's probably time you stopped.
 
Oddly, many Traditional Islamic authorities are said to reject the idea that Allah creates as well. This begs the question of how they believe that anything exists at all.
 
Sylviane88 said:
May be I don't know even 1+1=? .. say it next time. Just for your information, I'm student in medicine ... and there are many books -written by doctors- that refute the whole theory.



No, My 3rd.;)



Me too I was talking about that.



No .. it's you who talks about it



Did you see any relationship between my 2 questions and genetics? I was talking about the period from some separated atoms to a living cell .. who talked about the biological part of the TOE except you :lol:



Lol ... this means, in fact, you're off topic :lol:.



Please show me where I asked for an explanation relying on genetics.



No .. I asked for explanation from the TOE .. members here said it can answer all my questions .. I'm waiting now how so. then who is now off topic? Mr all-knowing?



No .. because it is OUT OF SUBJECT :lol:.



Fallacies??? What can I do for you if you're totally brainwashed .. You can't accept a reasonning like mine, unlike other members here.



Lol ... You should know that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the western countries, although all the efforts of those who have a huge hatred against Islam, although all the lies spread by them about Islam.

Do you mean that all those new western muslims -like me- are stupid ? .. None believe such a thing except PSYCHOPATH.

AND AGAIN, YOU'RE STILL WASTING OUR TIME HERE BY YOUR OFFTOPIC NONSENSE.
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1) Which doctors refute the theory of evolution? Are they credible, or are they your favourite Islamist-creationist-theory-doctors?

2) Evolution explains the origin of species, it does not explain the biochemical origin of life. And last I checked, neither does your beloved Koran. Thus I cannot understand you alternate hypothesis of 'God did it'.

3) Genetics in part explains the different sexes found in species.

4) You are wasting our time. How on earth is your Islamist claim relevant?... "That Islam is the fastest growing religion in Europe". Are you such a frothing at the mouth believer that you can't help yourself? You just have to mention you favourite stat from ulema.com, a stat that has no relevance to the debate.

5)If you belief in creationism, it could be described at one level as retarded (in the literal sense), as doing so prevents oneself from greater reason and understanding. Psychotic, would be a proposal to kill ignorant people. So the initial post may have been mean, but it was not psychotic.

Mmm making claims of brainwashed are we? This is coming from the poster that refuses to acknowledge evidence that so eloquently and clearly refutes the religious dogma that he believes in.....
 
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Sylviane88 said:
May be I don't know even 1+1=? .. say it next time. Just for your information, I'm student in medicine ... and there are many books -written by doctors- that refute the whole theory.
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Sure you're a medical student and I'm the Grand Poo-Pah of Xanadu! What's your point? Your argument is nothing more then the fallacy of appeal to authority and right now, it's real questionable if you got any. Please cite the books written by doctors that refute Evolution.

Furthermore, please show you even understand evolution.

Me too I was talking about that.
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Come again? How can a book written by doctors refute the theory when you are talking about various philosophical aspects, some of which are applied to engineering? How the hell can a doctor refute evolutionary principles apply to engineering? This I have to see.

No .. it's you who talks about it
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Because it is the only thing that makes sense. You do realize you are arguing that the greater notions of evolution, from political ideologies to structural engineering are ALL WRONG on the basis of your as yet, unproven evidence despite mountains of tangible commercial products derived from evolutionary ideas?

Wow. Arrogance in amounts I can't even measure.

Did you see any relationship between my 2 questions and genetics? I was talking about the period from some separated atoms to a living cell .. who talked about the biological part of the TOE except you :lol:
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Should have seen this coming. Typical creationist strawman. Fabricate an obviously fraudulent definition of evolution, refute it and then by association declare the real one wrong. Dishonest? Yes. Fraudulent? Yes. Typical Creationist? Yes.

Lol ... this means, in fact, you're off topic :lol:.
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Trying to cover your mistake when you are this deep in is often impossible.

Please show me where I asked for an explanation relying on genetics.
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You didn't. But you did falsely claim that the TOE is nearly the same as Darwin's theory. Therefore I asked you how they are the same with those questions. Perhaps you should take time to reread your own arguments. Clearly you have forgotten when you posted.

Anyone else getting real tired of this fool?
 
Yup. There are people on these forums that differ in opinion from me (obviously), but the key difference between them and Sylviane88 is they are here for a good discussion and exchange of ideas, usually.

Not to repeat the same thing over and over again, never learning.
 
Sylviane88 said:
Why have you to be surprised at the truth?
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You must be referring to the truth that people who refuse to accept the fact that species evolve, all species, from earlier species, are ignorant people.


Sylviane88 said:
And who gave you the right to say that muslims are ignorants?
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They don't accept evolution, that makes them ignorant.

Sylviane88 said:
What are you? Are you the all-knowing?
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I could be God. It can't be proven I'm not.

Sylviane88 said:
Did your Darwin prove his theory?
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Your ignorance showing. Theories aren't proven, they're discarded when they're proven wrong. Darwin's theory hasn't been proven wrong.

Sylviane88 said:
No atheist can disprove the existence of God.
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No atheist has to. God isn't required to explain the universe, ergo, the God Theories are worse than useless, they introduce unnecessary complications into the world.
 
I dont see why its wrong to treat certain beliefs with ridicule.
 
mikhail said:
I dont see why its wrong to treat certain beliefs with ridicule.
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Certain beliefs should be treated with ridicule.

If you have a belief that argues that objects of similar shape, size and mass sink at completely different rates in water despite anyone being able to show your belief is bullocks in their kitchen sink, such a belief should be ridiculed.
 
danarhea said:
Al Jazeera excitedly announces that Darwin has been refuted. Muslim clerics across the Globe announce that creationism is science. Political campaigners in Egypt, Turkey, Lebanon, and Indonesia are attempting to replace evolution with creationism in schools.

You know, normally I would be very surprised at the level of ignorance that is being shown by Muslims, but alas, I cannot be surprised at all. After all, I have heard it all before, right here in America.

Article is here.
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lol, just wow. Thanks for the chuckle, Islam.
 
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