M14 Shooter

Nifty-

I dont see an acceptance of my challenge.

Maybe you fell ill, or there was an emergency of some sort?

Please formally accept my challenge, so we can discuss a format for the debate -- I just KNOW you arent a coward and I'd hate for anyone reading this thread to think you were.

Thanks-
M14

Oh, and FYI:
The weapons protected by the 2nd is most certainly a debateable topic:
http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...amendment.html (What weapons are protected by the 2nd Amendment?)

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niftydrifty

Actually, it is ta-may-toe, ta-mah-toe. I say one, you say the other. these are opinions. the text is interpreted in different ways. If I were that worried about what the RCC viewed, then I'd be one. Alas, I am not.

The CRC believes that the "Real Presence" is spiritual, not physical. I'd be interested to know if Christ explained the precise nature of the presence in communion, and if not, how it is that you or the RCC can claim to know with absolute certainty what was meant, in such a way as to poo-poo the practices or beliefs of others which differ. Your post strikes me as quite a bit arrogant. in the interests of "the fullness of Christian Tradition," I forgive you for it.

perhaps we can revisit this later. I might be interested.

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niftydrifty

LOL, read your first post. first it's "modern firearms," then it's "weapons" ... then you send me to a poll that mentions nukes. and when I say "let's do it," you don't understand. Shooter, is that what it comes down to? reading comprehension?

the challenge was mine, not yours. remember? for a private debate. I asked you to pick a topic. you did. I've explained, more than once, how it's a lame topic. the guidelines of a private debate, which I challenged you to, stipulate on no uncertain terms, that we must agree on a topic. I don't. if that makes me a coward, then it must make you a dumbass.

so be it then, I formally accept "your" debate challenge. but you haven't accepted mine. you twisted it. but I'll let you, if only in the interest of revealing your lack of seriousness some more. We'll debate your opening post in this thread, not something else, a term which you misremembered later, "weapons," and not some question elsewhere on this site, a poll which is fundamentally different in its wording and its implications.

that you could say that, and then later point me to a poll that mentions all weapons, including nukes, speaks volumes about your ability to reason. you're all over the place. indeed, I shall argue on behalf of Liberalism, and you, ...

M14 Shooter

I'm sorry -- I thought you were willing to debate any topic I chose.
I chose one that's been presented here in the past, and generated a fair bit of debate as well as a fair difference of opinion.

Excellent! I KNEW you weren't a coward

Suggestions for format?

I suggest:
Monday 6-11
I will present opening remarks
Tuesday:
You will present opening remarks
Wednesday:
I will present my argument
Thursday:
You will present a rebuttal
Friday:
I will present a rebuttal
Monday 6-18
You will present a 2nd rebuttal
Monday:
I will present a 2nd rebuttal and closing remarks
Tues:
You will present closing remarks

We will then see who the audience believes argued their position better.

Sound OK?

I havent made an opening post in this debate.
Once we agree to the format, I will start a new topic for the actual debate.

Harshaw

Nifty, as for "your" challenge, you didn't say "you pick a topic, and then I'll decide if I want to debate it or not." You said, "you can pick the topic and I'll argue on behalf of Liberalism . . . "

It certainly looks to me as though it's you who's "twisting" your own challenge.

As for the "Liberal" position on which weapons are protected by the 2A, it's not difficult to determine. Just do a little research.

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niftydrifty

I must agree to the format and you will start a new topic?

what new topic are you going to start, Shooter?

please read the guidelines. stop playing games.

M14 Shooter

I already started a new topic, so that it might contain just the debate and none of the dre-debate discussion. Clarity, you know.

And agreeing to the format seems like a good idea, doesnt it?
If there's no agreement to the format of a debate, then the debate really cannot take place.

Is my suggested format OK or do you have an alternate proposal?

M14 Shooter

Hiya, Harshaw. Long time no see.

niftydrifty

bull****. you left out the part about how it is a private debate. private debates have guidelines. those guidelines are very clear.

furthermore, I suggest you re-read Shooter's first post. he said firearms, not "weapons." firearms are weapons. not all weapons are firearms.

do the "twist," all you like, bro.

I see, you meant "thread," not "topic." In the interest of clarity, I correct you. again.

your format is fine, thanks for proposing it.

M14 Shooter

Ok then!!

Sometime between now and the end of Monday, I shall post my opening remarks. It will be sooner rather than later, so if you want to respond early, be my guest. I only have access to a computer while at work (M-F 0730-1630 EDT) so I wont be able to post over the weekend or in the evenings.

I look forward to debating you, Nifty.
And I hope you appreciate that you're getting exactly what you asked for...